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| Bit of Viagra in the drinks bottles,
Wont do us any harm.
Agree with Baldy on Watts, doesnt look half the player who used to terrorise us and offload game is dissaperaing rapidly
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| Not another Charnley thread
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| I reckon Gentle realises now this is not the way to go, wouldn't say Mickey Paea is a lightweight mobile forward. Just need a few more like him.
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| It's obvious to even the part time supporter we lack a bit of size. As a head coach I'm certain at the beginning of the season Gentle knew we would struggle in games where O'meley, Lynch and Watts weren't all playing, as proved even against some of the bottom half of the table teams. The measure of Gentles coaching ability is what he can come up with to fix the problem. On the topic of problem fixing I'd love us to sign a quality attacking centre, put a bid in for Dean Collis at Wakey Mr Pearson!
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| Size does matter and I think and hope the small mobile pack experiment will now be officially dropped. Our three big forwards were missing on Friday and it was a disaster.
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| Quote: Staffs FC "Size does matter and I think and hope the small mobile pack experiment will now be officially dropped. Our three big forwards were missing on Friday and it was a disaster.'"
I'm not sure it was ever anything other than an attempt to put a positive spin on a necessity TBH.
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| Quote: Kosh "I'm not sure it was ever anything other than an attempt to put a positive spin on a necessity TBH.'"
Possibly so. Needs confining to history in any event.
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| Quote: Staffs FC "Possibly so. Needs confining to history in any event.'"
Absolutely. Modern forwards are perfectly capable of being big [iand[/i mobile. See NRL for details.
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| Quote: Kosh "Absolutely. Modern forwards are perfectly capable of being big [iand[/i mobile. See NRL for details.'"
Exactly Kosh.
Was lightweight ever mentioned? The idea was mobile.
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| Been saying this nearly all season, and specifically about Watts, too. I agree that it's one of our bigger (pardon the pun) problems.
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| Quote: fc baldy "Watts has been "slimmed" down too much for me.'"
Don't think Watts performances are to do with his size more his mental application, he is repeating his pattern he had with us, start off like a potential superstar then seem to fall into mediocre and almost not putting in any effort. He struggled to get into our side in his latter months to the point where we just let him go even with a seeming lack of forwards.
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| Quote: barham red "Don't think Watts performances are to do with his size more his mental application, he is repeating his pattern he had with us, start off like a potential superstar then seem to fall into mediocre and almost not putting in any effort. He struggled to get into our side in his latter months to the point where we just let him go even with a seeming lack of forwards.'"
Thats the thing though he has lost a lot of size, could have something to do with the long layoff at the end of last season. But IMO he hasn't been performing badly & don't think he lacks the effort.
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| Quote: barham red "Don't think Watts performances are to do with his size more his mental application, he is repeating his pattern he had with us, start off like a potential superstar then seem to fall into mediocre and almost not putting in any effort. He struggled to get into our side in his latter months to the point where we just let him go even with a seeming lack of forwards.'"
Not mediocre at all...been 1 of our better forwards this season but just think he has been bulked down too much and thats affected his game and looks as though he has had his off load "coached" out of him.
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| Quote: fc baldy "Not mediocre at all...been 1 of our better forwards this season but just think he has been bulked down too much and thats affected his game and looks as though he has had his off load "coached" out of him.'" He is a good player no doubt BUT at Cas he was seen as a great prospect until he started to think he was better than he was and started taking liberties and stopped putting the effort in.
Justin Morgan saw something in him and brought him to Hull KR and he was top notch for the first 1 1/2 season until again his attitude started to emerge when he started to become a liability on and off the pitch (Willie mason once called him a 'Galah' which coming from Mason makes you wonder, He left the scene of an accident etc).
He transfers to Hull FC and is again top notch but he has dropped off those levels again.
I hope he ends up finding his form again because he is great to watch when he plays well not matter who he is playing for but history points to what his reaction is once he has his feet under the table and it isn't that.
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| Surely it takes more out of the defence having to stop big heavy 19st blokes. You only got to look at Bradford when they was a force. They had Vagana, Meyers, Radford, Peacock, Fielden, Morley, Lynch all in the same squad. Those blokes are have got to have an advantage over a light mobile set of forwards?
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