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Quote: bonaire "I agree with the revolution but its on the field that really counts and Asiata apart its hardly a revolution but full of mediocrity.'"


But apart from Rimbu (too hard to say), all signed are improvements on what we have.

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Quote: Dave K. "But apart from Rimbu (too hard to say), all signed are improvements on what we have.'"


Fine if you want to watch mediocrity for two seasons
Like Briscoe i could maybe have understood a one season contract but two seasons is a joke

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Quote: bonaire "Fine if you want to watch mediocrity for two seasons
Like Briscoe i could maybe have understood a one season contract but two seasons is a joke'"


I want us to improve, these signing should see us impove.

Still plenty of movement to happen too.

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Although if we sign Isa, I'll join you and Jake on the negativity train.

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Quote: bonaire "Pushed out the same as James Clark'"


By who, and for what reason?

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Interesting that all some people wanted was a complete restructuring of the club, then when that very thing is happening they question the restructuring process.

Some people are never pleased.

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Quote: tommyfromhull "Interesting that all some people wanted was a complete restructuring of the club, then when that very thing is happening they question the restructuring process.

Some people are never pleased.'"

So long as the restructure doesn't look like rearranging the deckchairs on the titanic

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Quote: Jake the Peg "So long as the restructure doesn't look like rearranging the deckchairs on the titanic'"

I’m beginning to wonder if your posts have been hacked by a Dobbin. You used to be a reasonable poster but since you’ve returned, you’re Bonaire personified. I read your post explaining how your views have changed but if you’re that negative why do you bother but more importantly, why did you come back. It’s total BS.

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Quote: Armavinit "I’m beginning to wonder if your posts have been hacked by a Dobbin. You used to be a reasonable poster but since you’ve returned, you’re Bonaire personified. I read your post explaining how your views have changed but if you’re that negative why do you bother but more importantly, why did you come back. It’s total BS.'"


His point is similar to mine
Whether you like it or not Asiata apart the signings so far are bang average and like Jake said its like re arranging the deckchairs on the Titanic
We will wait to see what Cartwright offers in the second row but replacing Scott with Hardaker and Sutcliffe with Chamberlain is hardly a major improvement in an area we are sadly lacking and even Briscoe now is no better than Martin and certainly not as fast.
Like i said we started off making a statement with the Asiata signing but its all gone backwards since then.
Fans on here are gullible and get excited whenever a signing is announced.
How many on here and you were probably one of them were excited and optimistic about this season and thought we would do well because the club addressed the size issue in the forwards.
What Jake and i are saying is we need some quality and until the club address that you and others on here can be as optimistic as you want but there is no way the current recruitment will be enough to get us out of the bottom four next season.
You have to remember that Wakefield will come into S/L next season with a strong squad and the other S/L clubs in the lower half of the League will all recruit strongly so the get out of jail card we have this season may not be available in 2025

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People are quick to forget that just a few years ago people were saying the same things about the Gale signing as we are Hardaker now. Experienced, better than what we’ve got, proven winner etc. For me on a two year deal it’s just a poor signing and smacks of some of the signings we made at the end of the Hetherington era. If he didn’t sign for us I could have easily seen him sign for a championship side, and possibly the same can be said for Briscoe, Holmes and Chamberlain. Abdull on a big 3 year deal I’d just class as a huge gamble that could be a brilliant move or leave us writing off huge chunks of the season. I can’t have a strong opinion either way.

Even the Aussie signings, now I’d be much more willing to trust someone like Cartwright with an input to these signings so am actually quite optimistic, but they really could go either way. Rimbu and Stewart (I know it’s not happening now) have a few nice YouTube clips, but so did Pele, Okunbor, Nu Brown and Lovadua.

I see little bits of optimism that the club is making some progress especially off the field, but until we bring in some real quality match winners I can understand the pessimism. Maybe they’re still confident of not being relegated in 2025 either, but I fear for the club if it’s another potential wooden spoon season.

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for gods sake,lets get this season over and done with,before we start moaning about next season.

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Quote: Edinburgh_yorkie "for gods sake,lets get this season over and done with,before we start moaning about next season.'"


Sooner the better icon_lol.gif

Whilst I think they are going over the top with their negativity, as I don't think the signings are as bad as they are making out, I still think it's important that we sign at least two exciting signings, Cartwright, Abdul and Rimbu aren't in that category.

A couple of weeks ago the HDM ran an article saying they expected 2 more top end signings, this will have come from the club, so hopefully it will still happen.

Add in 3 more maybe 4 depending on walker, with two of them being top end players (SL standard) and we should be fighting for 6th position.

People forgetting new coaches and off the field staff coming in too, make not make a difference, but you would be suprised if it didn't based on the last 2 years of coaching.

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If Cartwright is as good as we hope he will make a massive difference.

See Peters at Rovers and Flanagan at SGI. Also Wests struggling with a rookie Marshall in charge

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Quote: Dave K. "Sooner the better
People also forget that we have been running on a shoestring until a couple of months ago, any top SL players will have been signed up well before our investment came in (Johnstone, McMeeken etc...) so we're having to make kind of stop gap signings until we can recruit some real quality, but those signings (Hardaker, Holmes and even Briscoe to an extent) aren't going to relocate halfway across the country for a year, so we're stuck between a rock and a hard place this year.

It seems the club can't win with some people, they'll moan if things stay the same but then will moan when the club try and make changes. We're not going to be able to overhaul everything in half a year, we're moving in the right direction tying our youth down looking towards the future. The alternative is panic signings looking for a quick fix which we know from experience doesn't work.

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Quote: Yippee try yay "People also forget that we have been running on a shoestring until a couple of months ago, any top SL players will have been signed up well before our investment came in (Johnstone, McMeeken etc...) so we're having to make kind of stop gap signings until we can recruit some real quality, but those signings (Hardaker, Holmes and even Briscoe to an extent) aren't going to relocate halfway across the country for a year, so we're stuck between a rock and a hard place this year.

It seems the club can't win with some people, they'll moan if things stay the same but then will moan when the club try and make changes. We're not going to be able to overhaul everything in half a year, we're moving in the right direction tying our youth down looking towards the future. The alternative is panic signings looking for a quick fix which we know from experience doesn't work.'"


The part in bold for me is exactly how I see it, then add in the mess we were in prior to Mylers arrival who has actually started the process of undoing the mess and getting the club/playing group back on a solid foundation to be able to build from. I'm pretty sure there will be certain improvement targets set that have to be met next season and as much as I hate to say it, realistically next season is pretty much a transitional year. As long as we see significant and structured improvement next year then I will accept things, as I'd rather see real structured improvement/rebuilding than a plan of sign some top players in the hope they'll improve things alone. I think the delay in getting what the club felt was the right Head Coach in Cartwright may not have helped in terms of already being behind the 8 ball for signings for 2025, but hopefully his impact will prove to be significant and outweigh that moving forward.

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