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He was right in the end:



Quote: Mrs Barista "

6th in the top flight would be above average in the context of my time supporting the club. So not delighted but about where we are. We don't have the resources of the Top 4, or Warrington, or Salford. Unfortunately.'"

In my time of supporting the club, we've been worse off, a lot worse off, the relative riches we have now and the level playing field with the salary cap we should have an even chance of being on a par with Huddersfield, they made top 4 with our fat reject running the show

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Quote: frepneyboy "Doubt he's ploughed even 15% of that into the club'"

£11m is still a lot of cash.

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Quote: frepneyboy "In my time of supporting the club, we've been worse off, a lot worse off, the relative riches we have now and the level playing field with the salary cap we should have an even chance of being on a par with Huddersfield, they made top 4 with our fat reject running the show'"

Agreed.

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Quote: Mrs Barista "£11m is still a lot of cash.'"

On 75mil its not a lot, esp when you'll be pushing daisies in the next 7 to 10 years

Reckon hes not even near near 10 mill

Kath took us to 3 finals, she put £120k into the club

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Quote: Mrs Barista "Agreed.'"

Therefore its AP's fault for not employing the right people. At ALL levels from office to off field to on field

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Quote: frepneyboy "Therefore its AP's fault for not employing the right people. At ALL levels from office to off field to on field'"

Agreed icon_biggrin.gif

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Such a beautiful end to the evening. Let's have an indulgent presidential quote.

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Quote: R.B.A "I think that Stevie Wonder could see that it was going to be a whole different ball game for Bobby when he left age group rugby and grown men started belting him back. That said, i am surprised that Hull didnt stick with him and let him develop further in the under 23s and duel reg. He is still a young kid in prop terms.
what it does show you is that players develop at differing rates and just because you are a schoolboy and Academy star it doesnt necessarily follow that you will become a Super Leagur star.'"


Oh yes the relative age effect and a quick look at BTWs profile confirms my suspicion he was a quartile one player.

Not that there's anything wrong with that but it's predominantly Q1 players (born Sep, Oct, Nov) that stand out in youth rugby and make up the majority of junior rep, scholarship and academy teams as they are early develops and usually bigger and stronger than players in Q3 of Q4 (born March to August).

Once players are in their late teens, this difference in size and strength has levelled out.

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Quote: Mrs Barista "Sure. Checked out our external credit rating lately? How it's moved over the last 12 months? Clearly not. Hard facts, cockle.'"

haha, it won't work trying to patronise me with your old term of endearment.
So you don''t have any hard facts with regard to costs then and you were just guessing as I said? You can't even see that there's an even chance that costs have dropped can you, don't you understand that that's how good businesses operate by reducing costs whilst maintaining quality?
I don't need to check the credit rating thanks, it's pretty meaningless to be honest with regard to this discussion, but please answer my previous Qs.
What is the variation in income with respect to fans through the gate (either by pass or otherwise) since 2010, ccs was saying it was £2.5M, how much are you saying it's down by?
How much has the SKY money increased by since, that you said would be swallowed up by said shortfall?

But do carry on flying Pearson's flag, you're doing an epic job. k020.gif icon_lol.gif

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Quote: knockersbumpMKII "haha, it won't work trying to patronise me with your old term of endearment.
So you don''t have any hard facts with regard to costs then and you were just guessing as I said? You can't even see that there's an even chance that costs have dropped can you, don't you understand that that's how good businesses operate by reducing costs whilst maintaining quality?
I don't need to check the credit rating thanks, it's pretty meaningless to be honest with regard to this discussion, but please answer my previous Qs.
What is the variation in income with respect to fans through the gate (either by pass or otherwise) since 2010, ccs was saying it was £2.5M, how much are you saying it's down by?
How much has the SKY money increased by since, that you said would be swallowed up by said shortfall?

But do carry on flying Pearson's flag, you're doing an epic job.
Sure. Independent measurement of financial health and creditworthiness and its change in 12 months is irrelevant to a discussion on finances. Surely even you can see in the absence of a P&L it's the best indicator we have? icon_lol.gif

If by "flying Pearson's flag" you mean pointing out the importance of fans renewing passes in a precarious financial situation, then you're right. Hardly controversial.

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Back on Westerman for a moment. What are views on likelihood of him staying/leaving? Rumours of contact with other clubs seem to have ebbed and flowed a bit.

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Quote: Mrs Barista "There is no detailed information on the creditors are, as you well know. I've posted the cash position. Why would I have access to AP's bank account? That's just crazy. Look, you've clearly stated that the financial position is OK and not materially different now to what it was a year ago. 2015 accounts won't be filed until next summer. Current credit ratings of the club's financial position and their change over the last year support my interpretation over yours. Get that Radford wheelie bin avatar going. Play to your strengths.'"


There you go again, claiming someone has said something they clearly haven't. is it a compulsion? Are you like this in real life? Is that the cash position from this week or a couple of years ago? Like you say, you have no information.

My strength seems to be debunking anything you claim so I'll stick with that

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Quote: Jake the Peg "There you go again, claiming someone has said something they clearly haven't. is it a compulsion? Are you like this in real life? Is that the cash position from this week or a couple of years ago? Like you say, you have no information.

My strength seems to be debunking anything you claim so I'll stick with that'"


The cash position is from last year's filed accounts. Since then our credit rating has worsened, yet you reckon our financial position hasn't. What is your evidence things financially are at least on a par with this time last year please?

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I think its clear to see were not in as good a position as we where but with the greater sky money and lets face it we are still a fairly well supported club and the fact that we seem to be operating on a shoe string budget should mean that were not about to go to the wall. Thing is things could of been sooooo much better and the one person to blame for that is A Pearson. Hes slowly strangling this club in the way hes running it and that is whats driving people away and will continue to do so

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Quote: Sebasteeno "I think its clear to see were not in as good a position as we where.'"

Agreed.

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