I seem to recall Wigan losing a Challenge Cup Semi Final in 2016 and the Challenge Cup Final in 2017. I’m just trying to remember which team beat them when it mattered.....?

Really impressed with the defence changes.

Remember the many 'walk in' tries at the corner we used to concede, often with a 2 or 3 man overlap ?

Wire kept getting turned back inside despite having the most experienced & expensive halves in SL !!

Your rough & rowdy way.

Certainly hugely different performances in defence so far this season. Wire kept trying to out number us down the right hand side but it stood firm last season would have leaked a couple of try’s at least. Also we kept Austin out who previously we had a habit of letting score.

Thing is, it’s still early days for all the new systems that have been introduced. I expect there’ll be improvements again, when players get even more used to their roles.
We certainly look a lot more sound , both in attack and defence, than we have done over the last couple of years at least.

Good thing is that we still have plenty to work on, and improvements in us.

Agree with this.

85 tackles for Danny Houghton. No misses. 215m for Carlos.

I came here to point out the same. 85 tackles on its own must be a superleague record.....but to not miss a single one is ridiculous.

The guy is a machine

We was not fortunate to have only Hudds and Salford as our loop fixtures, Rovers got tougher fixtures for finishing bottom. You don't get rewarded for finishing bottom.

Reynolds has transformed the shape of our attack and whilst he has worked under Hodgson probably made the transition easier. He tweaked his hamstring won't be the first or last player to do that this season. I'm not concerned at all he seems to be embracing the club and at no point does he look like he is here for a holiday.

By an our of sorts Warrington, I presume you mean they've lost one game ?

Say what you like but we've conceded 5 tries in 3 league games, in comparison you concede that a game. We may not be the finished article but I've seen nothing from the opening games to make me any less optimistic of a pretty decent season.

Just ignore him, its easy to post on here and criticize Hull after your own teams win and our draw.

If he thought this why didnt he post this about our easy start and Reynolds after the Salford win.

Still early days, but very promising signs, defence looks very good and attack good in patchs.
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Already 3 more points than last year

what a contrast watching hulls game yesterday than the 2 nrl games earlier in the day with 15,20 thousand watching.crowds and atmosphere make all the difference.

I felt we gave all we had, and that is sometimes all you need. No wonder Houghton looked flogged when an opportunity to run presented itself, outstanding effort. Get the scrums back, before we all lose more players to injuries in this non stop breathtaking spectacle we have created for ourselves. Jordan Lane and the rest of the pack mammoth effort.

some great tries were scored from scrums,including the memorable topliss runaround try in 1982.need to keep them.