Your problem is you use the wrong examples for your comparisons.....You chose Rovers' recent improvement has some sort of example for FC's under acheivement, when you should actually be comparing Wigan' & Wire's improvement.....Now you attempt to put down Agar by comparing him with the similarly average Justin Morgan.

My point is that while Agar is an average coach, Morgan isn't any better......If bettering Hull KR is the height of your ambitions (and your posts seem to point to this), then as a club you have a problem.....You have both the squad and following to be a lot, lot better.

Agree with what your saying there, I'm actually not one of the FC fans who see the be all and end all as beating Rovers... I'd happily lose to them twice a season if we were regularly in the shake-up for trophies at the end. I use Rovers to illustrate the point because while FC are one of the 3 or 4 clubs in the competition that has the fan-base and infrastructure in place to be the best team in the country.. we can't even manage to be the best team in our city.

So many pages of who is the better prospect to sign for, Hull or Rovers. Pointless and small-time TBH. I think there are a few people that need to realise that for any NRL hot properties coming over, both clubs are probably 5 or 6 names down the pecking order now unless they offer extra money.

If I was a top class RL player coming out of contract and put my Hull loyalty and the home town factor to one side, I wouldn't sign for either.

Finally had some time to check this, and you're right. The relevant parts of the rules are 6.1.2 to 6.1.4 as below...


So any payment made to Hicks will not count on the cap if paid after 1st December 2010 - which is what I guess has happened.

So could this have been the case for Raynor and King who left FC on 1st Dec and around Christmas 2009 respectively but never played for FC in 2010?

I was thinking that. Would explain why Hull are tighter at the Cap than many fans envisaged.

But the players still weren't replaced as such.

With regards wages, i wouldn't think that Sharp & Westerman will be earning as much as Cusack, Hall & Calderwood. There must still be enough room for one more quality player IMO..

Yup. Assuming that the same rules were in place last year (and as far as I know they were) then they wouldn't have counted on the cap for last season.

Disagree. Cusack's last year was rumoured to be cheap and can't see Hall having been on much. Doubt Westerman will have come for peanuts. Chuck in the upgrades for Houghton, Tickle, Manu, Whiting etc and I'd doubt we could bring anyone in unless we offloaded a player or two.

what would have happened if king and raynor had elected to see out their contracts? would we have gone over the cap? i would imagine there will be enough room on the cap for one more player,though obviously if the berro rumour is to be believed,we should have a big chunk available?or would we? i just hope the club,don't drag their heels on this,as we are already in to pre-season training.

What makes you think that they had that option?

So Hull win three out of four derby games and finished above Rovers in the league last season and a so called Hull F.C. supporter is saying Rovers are top dogs in the city?.......Intresting.