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Quote: Uncle Junior "I can understand wanting to lose games in the short term in order to his accelerate his removal and hopefully the appointment of a proper head coach that would ensue.'"


What makes you think if Agar was sacked he would be replaced by "a proper head coach"? It didn't happen when his predecessors were sacked.

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Quote: wolfie "I spoke to a so called die hard hull fan the other day and he is happy to see us lose so long as it puts more nails in agars coffin
How is the brother?

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Quote: Jake the Peg "How is the brother?'"


no idea.

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Quote: Nobeerineasthull "What makes you think if Agar was sacked he would be replaced by "a proper head coach"? It didn't happen when his predecessors were sacked.'"


No guarantees at all, but at least we'd be shot of Agar and hopefully the board will have learnt their lesson as far as taking cheap options goes. I agree though it wouldn't be certain to happen.

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Quote: wolfie "no idea.'"


Aren't you friends any more?

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Quote: Uncle Junior "ah the old 'who is there out there to replace them with' argument. It's wishful thinking to hope to get rid of them all, but I don't think it's too outlandish to hope that people who consistently fail at what they are paid to do get replaced with fresh blood.'"


Because any top-class coach would be queueing up to be a part of such a loyal set-up wouldn't they?

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Quote: cod'ead "Because any top-class coach would be queueing up to be a part of such a loyal set-up wouldn't they?'"


They'd see the removal of underperforming staff as 'disloyal'? That's funny! Are you a union man by any chance?

Our chances of recruiting a top coach would be improved dramatically if we could also offer them free reign over the composition and recruitment of the coaching set-up to work under them.

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Been out of the country, so didn't see the Cas game...

my view on things currently is that I'm happy to be 4th, and happy that we've improved our form despite several injuries.

however to take a cynical view on it, Catalan and Cas are struggling down at the bottom and therefore are games we'd hope to win anyway. I am also very concerned that we struggle to win without Long, and that it'll only take a knock in training, a late hit on the field or simply be marked out of a crucial game (such as a playoff) and that's our season over. We can't just rely on one man to create things.

I think the Saints game will be a big test, and will give us a better indicator of how our season will pan out.

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Quote: Kosh "Doesn't surprise me, sadly - we've seen similar sentiments expressed on here occasionally. I can't get my head around it TBH. How can you be a fan and want us to lose?'"


Its not a view i share but i kind of understand where people would be coming from with that view. Initial defeat for the greater good and all that. I'm sure the Man Utd fans would take 2 months of solid defeats if it meant the Glazers sold up and cleared off for example. As i say, im not in that camp but sometimes desperation makes people do and feel in non-normal ways.

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Quote: Big Dave T "Its not a view i share but i kind of understand where people would be coming from with that view. Initial defeat for the greater good and all that. I'm sure the Man Utd fans would take 2 months of solid defeats if it meant the Glazers sold up and cleared off for example. As i say, im not in that camp but sometimes desperation makes people do and feel in non-normal ways.'"

Why would anyone be that desperate though? Regardless of how unconvinced anyone might be about Agar the fact is that we're currently 4th in the table despite our annual injury crisis and likely to finish with a decent playoff spot. It seems more like petulant foot-stamping than anything else TBH.

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Quote: Kosh "Why would anyone be that desperate though? Regardless of how unconvinced anyone might be about Agar the fact is that we're currently 4th in the table despite our annual injury crisis and likely to finish with a decent playoff spot. It seems more like petulant foot-stamping than anything else TBH.'"


I guess different people have different tolerance levels and individual beliefs etc.

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What exactly is it that Crooks, Last and Pope have failed at?

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Quote: Digger_the_Dog "What exactly is it that Crooks, Last and Pope have failed at?'"



I agree about Andy Last his record with the reserves (u20's/u21's) is outstanding 3 finals, 2 titles and currently top of the league again.

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Quote: Digger_the_Dog "What exactly is it that Crooks, Last and Pope have failed at?'"


Not wearing "Agar-Out" shirts?

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Quote: cod'ead "Not wearing "Agar-Out" shirts?'"


wrong again.

Last runs a successful u21 side in terms of results but his job is to provide players for the first team, when was the last time a promising prospect reached their potential in the first team?

Pope is in charge of the fitness and conditioning of the players, that speaks for itself.

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