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| Quote: Kosh "The common factor being crap coaches, of which Radford is simply the latest iteration.
I agree him going won't make any difference if he's replaced by someone of the same calibre, but bring in a decent coach and it would improve us.'"
Why can't the players play like they were coached in the first two games ? Is it really the coaching that varies so much week to week or is it the players ?
In reality it is a mix of things. I hope we get a top coach in. But he will change some players without doubt. Our team is not top class and hasn't been since 2006.
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| Quote: Staffs FC "Why can't the players play like they were coached in the first two games ? Is it really the coaching that varies so much week to week or is it the players ?
In reality it is a mix of things. I hope we get a top coach in. But he will change some players without doubt. Our team is not top class and hasn't been since 2006.'"
We need pace , Leeds went around our players with ease.
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| Knowing one of the players mum's she says her son and most of the team do not like or respect Radford.
Clearly evident on our inconsistencies and capitulations.
Radford must go now.
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| Quote: Staffs FC "Why can't the players play like they were coached in the first two games ? Is it really the coaching that varies so much week to week or is it the players ?
In reality it is a mix of things. I hope we get a top coach in. But he will change some players without doubt. Our team is not top class and hasn't been since 2006.'"
I've never claimed we have a top class side just waiting for a decent coach to unleash their potential. And saying that the coaching varies week to week is missing the point. What's happening is that the overall coaching and leadership at the club is inadequate, which leads to these up-and-down performances over the course of the season.
A good/great coach gets the best out of the players we have. I don't believe that Radford is capable of doing that. I don't believe he has the nous to address our failings, either in terms of coaching the current squad or recruiting the right players going forward. He simply isn't up to the - admittedly huge - job of turning this club around.
All moot anyway. He won't walk and Pearson has said he won't be sacked. I'm beginning to think that my avatar isn't as ironic as I intended it to be.
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| Quote: B0NES "We need pace , Leeds went around our players with ease.'"
Yep. And he got rid of our best attacking player in Ben Crooks and persists with Yeaman who is finished.
And I'm not buying the short turnaround excuse, we had two weeks to prep for salford and was equally as gash!
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| Quote: B0NES "We need pace , Leeds went around our players with ease.'"
We need a lot of things. Pace, support play, craft, strike power - just off the top of my head.
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| Just heard on the radio 'we need a real coach..bring McNamara in' made me chuckle.
I think too many people are blaming Westerman, granted he couldn't catch Watkins (I think it was) at the break, but how is a loose forward expected to keep up with a centre, get a grip. Also for me Mini had a solid game, great runner
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| Quote: oooh Gravy! "Yep. And he got rid of our best attacking player in Ben Crooks and persists with Yeaman who is finished.
And I'm not buying the short turnaround excuse, we had two weeks to prep for salford and was equally as gash!'"
Short turnaround a bit of a factor in losing Sa and Watts maybe, but can't attribute a 0-43 second half to it.
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| On the plus side - I thought Lineham had his best game for a while and Pryce was pretty good.
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Short turnaround a bit of a factor in losing Sa and Watts maybe, but can't attribute a 0-43 second half to it.'"
Also directly responsible for not having Cunningham available. Maybe Thompson as well?
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| Quote: jamesg794 "Just heard on the radio 'we need a real coach..bring McNamara in' made me chuckle.
I think too many people are blaming Westerman, granted he couldn't catch Watkins (I think it was) at the break, but how is a loose forward expected to keep up with a centre, get a grip. Also for me Mini had a solid game, great runner'"
Wouldn't be my first choice, but I'd take McNamara in a heartbeat if we could get him. Done a pretty good job with England imo and has been gaining good experience at one of the best clubs in the world.
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| Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "Wouldn't be my first choice, but I'd take McNamara in a heartbeat if we could get him. Done a pretty good job with England imo and has been gaining good experience at one of the best clubs in the world.'"
What is his record with England against the big 2? His record at Bradford was poor as well.
Given the choice i would rather have the players coached by a random fan each week than have McNamara running the show.
IF!!!! Radford goes the whole backroom staff needs to go as well(they have been part of the years of poor consistency), we need a complete overhaul and the new coach should bring his own team in.
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| Quote: ComeOnYouUll "The five day turnaround is no excuse.
Saturday to Thursday is no different to Sunday to Friday which teams do regularly.
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This. I think 5 days is the bare minimum needed for players to recover and get even a minimal amount of "match training" in, and it would be much better if all clubs could be given 6 or 7 days turnaround. But a 5 day gap happens regularly for teams throughout the season.
Far from me to agree with Phil Clarke but I think you didn't quite make enough of being dominant in the first half.
As for Hull's issues, as an outsider looking in I reckon your problems stem from never thinking long term. It always appears as if players are signed just because someone is available or a position needs filling rather than getting the right type of player or from any real attempt to build a team.
It seems like a few players are signed and then the coach is told to do his best with what's there. Then next year some will leave and a few more are signed. And so on. Rather than building a team.
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| Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "Wouldn't be my first choice, but I'd take McNamara in a heartbeat if we could get him. Done a pretty good job with England imo and has been gaining good experience at one of the best clubs in the world.'"
Yeah, thats fair enough! Cannot understand what Radford must have said to them at half time...'if you concede in the first 40 seconds you all get a raise' ? We knew Leeds were going to score but that was just embarrassing. Hats off to them though, some of their tries were really well worked out, especially burrows last so credit where it's due.
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