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Quote: UllFC "to be fair, bulking up Crooks is the one thing i'd agree with Radford on, his defence isn't up to scratch for a SL centre. You don't want him to loose that electric pace, but a balance between pace and defence has to be found somewhere or he won't progress.'"


I don't disagree he needs to be stronger, but it won't happen overnight & he was pretty good last season until his injury. - What's changed?
I haven't seen anything in Whiting or ,Sa's performances (as centres) to indicate that they offer anything more than Crooks.
Whiting too slow, & I must be missing something as I just don't get the hype with Sa'. - average at best

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Quote: westdock boy in oz "I don't disagree he needs to be stronger, but it won't happen overnight & he was pretty good last season until his injury. - What's changed?
I haven't seen anything in Whiting or ,Sa's performances (as centres) to indicate that they offer anything more than Crooks.
Whiting too slow, & I must be missing something as I just don't get the hype with Sa'. - average at best'"


Sa is another who fits the Radford requirement,no flair,no pace but can tackle and return the ball.
We really have to get some pace into the backs of this team.Even Tom lineham has lost pace since his injury and couldn't even catch Arundel who is hardly a sprinter.

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tbf arundel no slowcoach over 30/40m and lineham imo still off full fitness, crooks and sa would be a good centre pairing imo, but rumour has it we are after another,

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Quote: westdock boy in oz "I don't disagree he needs to be stronger, but it won't happen overnight & he was pretty good last season until his injury. - What's changed?
I haven't seen anything in Whiting or ,Sa's performances (as centres) to indicate that they offer anything more than Crooks.
Whiting too slow, & I must be missing something as I just don't get the hype with Sa'. - average at best'"

U are the epitomy of a hull fc knee jerker. He's spent 2yrs in union. In his own words dilluting his own skills. He's moved home n swapped teams mid season having not played for yrs. What would u be expecting n in a struggling team too! Better players than him would struggle!!

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Quote: bonaire "Sa is another who fits the Radford requirement,no flair,no pace but can tackle and return the ball.
We really have to get some pace into the backs of this team.Even Tom lineham has lost pace since his injury and couldn't even catch Arundel who is hardly a sprinter.'"

Sa has some flair. Check out his highlights also the fact hes played 6 at times in his career points to this. In this team he's mostly been used in the backrow n has come into a struggling team. A centre that can tackle is a great start. He can pass a ball n offload n carry strongly. He wont score full length tries but many centres aint pace merchants anymore.

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If we backed up more, speed wouldn't be an issue. It really annoys me to see Feka drive the ball and nobody goes with him, all the good sides always have a man in support.

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Quote: airliebird,runninglate! "U are the epitomy of a hull fc knee jerker. He's spent 2yrs in union. In his own words dilluting his own skills. He's moved home n swapped teams mid season having not played for yrs. What would u be expecting n in a struggling team too! Better players than him would struggle!!'"


Doesn't seem to have done Tomkins any harm playing in Union.
What is obvious is that Sa is once again an average Radford signing but fits his criteria of the type of player he wants.
Look at the thread title Third from Bottom definitely not a knee jerker just a fan who can recognise that Radford will never make a good coach.
Have said now for many weeks and at last most people on here are getting the message

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Too early to judge Sa, can't compare him to Tompkins as at least he has been playing, whilst Sa has hardly played for two years. How many minutes has he played centre? I would guess less than 100 minutes. I have seem a few signs of his skills and power, he has a good offload on him. Like Talonoa and Lineham a good off season will see him improve massively next year.

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Quote: Dave K. "If we backed up more, speed wouldn't be an issue. It really annoys me to see Feka drive the ball and nobody goes with him, all the good sides always have a man in support.'"



this ^^^


watching from the seats on sunday, numerous clean breaks in the first half, no back up!

the top teams have 2,3 or 4 players backing them, with our players its like a scene from a movie, "run forest run", where all our squad stand and watch!

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Quote: number 6 "this ^^^


watching from the seats on sunday, numerous clean breaks in the first half, no back up!

the top teams have 2,3 or 4 players backing them, with our players its like a scene from a movie, "run forest run", where all our squad stand and watch!'"


The only time we backed up with two or three players was when we took Widnes apart.Then it was the speed guys in the team Lancaster,Shaul and Rankin

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Quote: airliebird,runninglate! "U are the epitomy of a hull fc knee jerker. He's spent 2yrs in union. In his own words dilluting his own skills. He's moved home n swapped teams mid season having not played for yrs. What would u be expecting n in a struggling team too! Better players than him would struggle!!'"


Knee jerker!!! You are aware the season is just about finished?
You are aware of our league position? (thread title should give you a clue)
I do agree Sa' hasn't been given much game time over the past 2 years. Injuries apart - why do you think that is?

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Quote: Staffs FC "Regardless of who is the coach the club is clearly putting a massive emphasis on promoting/developing youth players who are believed to be good enough. I seriously doubt there's ever been a time when this policy has been clearer or more important. If there's one thing that Radford can't be accused of it's closing the door on youth players '"


I have no qualms about his promotion of young players, just the lack of progress of those once they've `established' themselves.
Only Shaul of last years crop looks to be improving. Crooks, Lineham (ok he's been injured) Green & Bowden have gone backwards.
I admit I don't see them as often as you guys & others may have seen an improvement. Time will tell I suppose

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Quote: westdock boy in oz "I have no qualms about his promotion of young players, just the lack of progress of those once they've `established' themselves.
Only Shaul of last years crop looks to be improving. Crooks, Lineham (ok he's been injured) Green & Bowden have gone backwards.
I admit I don't see them as often as you guys & others may have seen an improvement. Time will tell I suppose'"

When I met Pearson I asked the same questions.....crookes wants out as he thinks he is NRL standard when he needs to bulk up to help his defense. Lineham has struggled to get match fit after his injury. Our pack are just too nice with not enough grunt and that applies to green more than most.....they club are trying to toughen them up. This is just what I was told and it makes sense to me

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What is everyone's obsession with having props who are big rough s? This isn't 1980 anymore. As long as they make metres I couldn't care less how mean they are.

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Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "What is everyone's obsession with having props who are big rough s? This isn't 1980 anymore. As long as they make metres I couldn't care less how mean they are.'"

Bring back Tim Street.

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