Blunderside reporting this morning that Miller is to take part in pre-season training which suggests no deal has been agreed to pay him off and he hasn't got another club.

I did think he might return to Oz as he and his partner have just had a baby but I can't blame him for seeing out his contract if he has no other job to go to.

Or, he's going to a rival club across the city on a loan.

He'll be going somewhere on loan because I suspect that him and Arundel won't be registered as part of our cap this year Pearson is always hinting he's paying well over cap on wages so I expect we won't be seeing much of those two!

How does it affect the cap if you still have to pay a portion of a players wages. Its been mentioned both Miller and Arundell are on more money than they're worth so I would assume any loan deal will be partially funded by yourselves, does this not appear on anyones cap

Full cap liability is met by the club the player is loaned to, this is regardless of what the agreement actually is.
For instance, let's say Miller is loaned to yourselves and the deal agreed is each club pays 50% towards his £100k wage, the full £100k sits on your cap.

Cheers, never realised that, thought it was just the clubs actual outlay.

I would imagine that will make it harder to shift him out then, I certainly wouldn't want 100K of our cap tied up on the likes of Miller.

He had agreed a deal at leigh but I understand he changed his mind so he can return to Australia

Not so. Gwilym Lloyd said he would be back training for FC in pre season in a couple of weeks' time.

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rl:2ue53318]https://www.leighjournal.co.uk/sport/11535666.New_Centurions_signing_ready_to_impress/rl:2ue53318] " One player that will not be joining Leigh is Hull FC's Australian half-back Jacob Miller. Miller spent time on dual contract with Doncaster this year and Leigh pursued the former Sydney Rooster and Wests Tigers player.

“We had a deal arranged with Hull for Jacob but he has decided to go home," Leigh head of rugby Derek Beaumont explained. '"

Well that can't be true unless:
1) "Going home" means "to Hull"
2) Lloyd was shiit-stirring making a headline out of a "contracted player in return for pre season training shocker", embellished with phrases like "frozen out". Good attempt to bury the bad news of replacing Josh Hodgson with an unknown player from the French equivalent of Batley, mind.

Could just be a negotiating position. People sometimes use a friendly journalist to put their side across, I've heard. So while I don't think many doubt that he'll go home eventually, perhaps this an indication he'll do it on terms of his own choosing.

If he found a club, Hull could just pay him off outside the cap I think. It's more of an issue for Arundel, although at least he is fed-trained and can maybe be carouselled on the cap.

If by journalist you mean "apologist", if by "sometimes" you mean "regularly, consistently and over the course of a decade", and by "put their side across" you forgot to add "unchallenged, with no attempt to call out double standards and hypocrisy", I'd be inclined to agree.

I wish Miller well, unrealistic expectations have done for him. Don't blame him for digging his heels in with the six figure at stake.