I disagree. Playing conservative is what we did for years under Agar. If we want to get used to chucking the ball about, we need to do it. Practise makes perfect. Losing by not trying this will make us no more confident than losing by trying.

Looking at the next 4 games we are playing sides in or around us in the league.

Our defence if right, is up to anything they can muster so let them play the expansive game and make the mistakes which we can capitalise on with steady rugby. Then by the time we come to playing the stronger teams confidence should have improved.

We cannot go from the way we are playing to world beaters in a week or 2, the team is still very much work in progress which we have to accept.

Getting the basics right is a must.

in order to start executing our set plays and building up our attack we need to get the same people on the field in that spine of the team its no good having different combinations every week every team would struggle to build up a good attack with the changes we keep having in the key positions

Very true - and that means the training field as well as match day. It's time to stop persisting with Azzer as the fall back half. Let him and Danny Houghton get a proper partnership going at 9 and get Whiting (my preference) or Westerman in as a temporary half. Alternatively even play McDonnell at half with Horney and Whiting at FB. As you say though until we get these positions more settled the disjointed nature of our attack will always be there.

its that same problem again if we had a good 7 we would have Horne coming in for holdsworth and we would not have to change our attack but because we have no depth again we are going to be punished we cant play azza there hes to good at hooker to move him and you waste him at 6
i like the idea of McDonnell there tbh some one with speed and can jink in and out of the line creating problems but i would not like to move him from full back
i think we are going to have to put up with westy or whiting playing there and just see how it goes we have the players to win this game but they need to put there hands up and have a good go at it!!

that might have something to do with the players we sign..usually over 30 and finished....

Top post and spot on!

Going on squad numbers...

Average age of squad numbers 1-17 is 28.

Average age of the entire 33-man squad is 24.5.

thats abit padantic...... omeley,lynch,galea,horne,yeaman are over 30 for a start..tickle must be close.....
when you take into account how young nicklas,cunningham,kent etc are then does that even it out?? no. our first team players are too old......

Going on squad numbers again...

We have 7 players who are 30 years old or older wearing shirts from 1-17. We have 1 in the rest of the squad. That's 8 players out of a squad of 33.

The 8 'old men' are Yeaman (30), Ogre (32), Lynch (34), Ellis (32), Tickle (30), Galea (35), Horne (31), and Heremaia (31).

Most people on here think that Yeaman is our best centre. Horne has been one of our better players so far this season. I guess you'll allow that Ellis was a good signing? Lynch isn't that old for a prop and most people were happy with his signing. Ogre was retained because we literally couldn't find anyone else to replace him. Heremaia is not old for a hooker.

Galea I'll give you. Pointless signing for mine.

Don't forget Lynch is the new scapegoat

Galea I don't understand either in the big picture.

correct, but its also 8 out of our starting 17...... and that is a worry, whiting cant be far off either!!!

It's not stopping Wire .

How old was Berrigan when we signed him?

Think 29 when started first season