Improving to 8th-10th but I'm going to say this for about the 10th year in a row...winning games in August and September.

Had we started this season badly but then won a game or two the last few weeks we'd still be down but there would be a feeling things are getting better. Instead every year without fail we fall apart over the summer.

The next thing is the squad management, I'd hope we've seen the end of paying off players early and are instead evolving the squad at the end of contracts like sensible clubs do.

The other thing that can cheer us up is a cup run, even a day out at a Semi would feel like the promised land right now.

7TH/8TH for me, above Wakefield, Castleford, Huddersfield and maybe Salford or Leeds, more consistency and fitness.

For me, as well as those views previously posted, I want a captain who's not afraid to kick a'ses when its needed. Watching this group standing behind the posts, there doesn't appear to be anyone giving them a hard time. Lets hope JC appoints the right leader.

Can't wait for Mr Positive's contribution.

competitive....no more blow out scores

commitment...players not giving up once they go a couple of scores down

The new coach and back-room staff have to be the biggest appointments. The alarming thing this year is even if we were 20% better than we have been that only equates to 1.2 extra points on the table

Next year we go with a better coach, better backroom and for me an improved squad with better characters.

I think we'll improve from god-awful to average; which is quite a leap. As improved as the squad will be, it won't see us leap frog many. I'd say 7th would represent a great season, but 8th/9th a realistic hope.

Snowflake woke man

I'll echo what most people have said.
Think it's disrespectful to Wakefield Hudds and Cas that we'll finish above them.
Wakefield have recruited well so far and like us Huddersfield are an unknown and will be thinking like most fans on here. We're bottom for a reason and it will take a lot of work and effort before we can say who'll we'll finish above. There's no devine right.
For me the first realistic target has to be the retention of pass holders and sponsors after this dross .

I'm not even sure you understand what that means.

Your the one crying about it.

Someone can't handle the truth.

I don't anyone is saying we will definitely finish above those and I wouldn't be massively shocked if any of them finish above us next year, but these are clubs we certainly could finish above looking at their squads and coaching.

Nothing wrong with having aspirations no matter how low the bar is set. All clubs and fans set goals. Not sure there's any disrespect in hoping we are better next season.

Don’t care if we lose every game (okay I do a bit), just want to see the lads dig in and fight for eachother and the badge. No more blowout scores. Small victories like winning a half and not conceding in first 10/20/30 is where we need to start building some confidence. This is what Grix should have been seeing to.

I remember when Gentle came in, one of the things that came out was how far behind the rest of the league we were on the S&C side of things, don’t think that’s ever really changed and we are paying the price. Cartwright talks the talk and I’m desperate for him to back it up with action. I sincerely hope anyone who doesn’t want to do the graft in pre-season is sent packing.

Pretty sure it will be a 4 horse race for the bottom 4 places. Hull, Castleford, Wakefield and Huddersfield.

1. Hull KR
2. Wigan
3. St Helens
4. Warrington
5. Catalan
6. Leeds
7. Leigh
8. Salford
9. Huddersfield
10. Wakefield
11/12. Castleford or Hull FC

Everyone else might as well not bother then.