"Chime" must be the most overused stevoism ever. It doesn't even mean anything to non stevo devotees

This thread has escalated into something other than what I first mentioned. I haven't mentioned his link up play, as he offers us different things in attack. It was to do with his defensive positioning, standing to shallow to not allow him to react to a break (Marshall x 3 times, Webster at the weekend), and his positioning when defending our goal line - staying in the line, rather than defending the in goal. If you look at the McMeeken try from the weekend, Shaul should be shadowing the ball, he should be in line with the guy kicking the ball allowing him to get to the ball, but he is 5-10metres from where he needs to behttps://farm5.staticflickr.com/4628/26681504788_7243b28bfa_z.jpg" >rlrl

This isn't scapegoating, it is trying to see reasons why we are conceding tries so that we can win more rugby matches

Problem is when we score a try from Sneyd's boot it's a great kick, when we concede a try from a kick it's poor defending.

Simple - play him at hooker
He has all the attributes and sh*t off a stick darting through the A gap with a tired defence tackling our big forwards

I did enjoy that try against Saints from dummy half ... but no. I just couldn't cope with the loud complaining about his passing.

Shaul is a great player . But I noticed last night when he got the ball in the attacking line he spun around and went backwards.
He needs to be chime in the line and be more direct.

This isn't a new thing.

You really notice when a team has a good full back how much space they can create for the centre and winger. Shaul is like barry banks when he gets the ball. It's not all his fault as we tend to have no dummy runners and players just ship the ball aimlessly out to him without ever committing the defence. If we could improve this area we'd win the league in the next year or two IMO

Ben Barba is showing the rest of SL what a good fullback can bring.
Jamie is a great fullback but needs to be more direct.

I agree with your sentiments but----Ben Barba is showing the rest of SL what a great fullback can bring.
Jamie is a good fullback but needs to be more direct.

He needs to learn when to time his run, where he needs to run pre/post getting the ball and when to pass.
Open field play he's one of the top two FB in the country, linking up in the red zone, shocking.
As already mentioned his positioning on the line can be poor, too often he doesn't get to the play in time or is there to help out when a player crashing over from short range.
He's not learnt in those facets which is more concerning, he's been the first choice Hull FB pretty much from summer of 2013, he's 26 this summer and should have already identified where his weaknesses are and be working on it.
IF he does that then he'd be further up the pecking order for England, I just don't think he has it in him certainly not on the linking up in attack which at international level is more important than the scoots he makes.

Carlos MOM vs wire
Griffin 1 of the best v Leeds ( 1st game in his time here we've hit him with good early ball)
Connor makes stuff happen..behind Kelly of most x factor player
Radford has to make 3 go into 2 or 1 spends half a game warming the bench
the alternative is Connor at 1 allowing all 3 to play.
Of the 4 players on this season's form Shaul is the weakest by quite a bit

Needs to find some consistency, was great against Warrington and St George but poor in others.

He looks better when Abdul is at 13, as it gives us 3 pivots and allows Shaul to play his more natural game.