Heavy wet ground would have affected shauls speed too

Never going to get a scrum or penalty for it, it's always classed as attacking the arm, and a loose carry.

Shaul's brilliant over 15-30 yards but doesn't have lasting speed, as others have said, Lineham wouldn't have been caught.

Disappointing nobody was in support.

No he isnt the ball bounced 3 or 4 times towards the Wigan line before he picks it up

Was gutted for the kid not to get the try. It would have been outstanding.
Said straight after the game if Shaul scored that we would have won. Think it would have lifted the players and fans incredibly and had a very similar effect to Lineham's try in the semi.
I'm sure Shaul will get another chance on the big stage in the future!

This will be the same Shaul who took the ball from dummy half at Wakefield and went (if my memory is right) from inside his own half to score.

Charnley is very fast and underestimated over distance.
Because of his bulk people think he ain't that fast and he is.
A Lineham v Charnley chase would have been an interesting one.
Charnley though was a sprinter in his school days.
You have to give Shaul more game time next year than this.
Bet him and Crooks have blinders on Friday.

Didn't affect Charnley's. Was disappointed actually, thought he was quicker than that. Should have checked back inside and gone for the sticks.

Both Jamie Shaul and Jason Crookes have explosive acceleration off the mark but they're not length of the field sprinters.

Tom Lineham is nowhere near as quick off the mark but once he gets going he really does go for a big bloke. Agree that Charnley v Tommy would be an interesting race to watch!

Before making glib statements like that, I suggest you brush up on the Knock On in Laws of the game.

How many times it bounces towards the Wigan dead ball line is totally irrelevant

Yeah, that's the one. He went through the defensive line and rounded the FB on that occasion, he wasn't in a direct sprint with anyone.

As good a break and run it was the cover tackle from Charnley was outstanding and maybe a match winning play IMO

Then you didnt understand my point which was not related to the offside rule per se but the statement that O'Loughlin is closer to our line than Charnley when he knocks the ball out. Watch the replay he isnt. Presumably the ref sees it simply as Shaul dropping the ball because he has to protect it??

It's a simple fact:

Charnley knocked the ball out of Shaul's grip towards HIS (Charnley's) opponent's dead ball line. There's your knock on.

O'Loughlin came from an offside position and collected the ball. O'Loughlin was never played on-side. There's your penalty

Wrong.. Well in Bentham's eyes anyway. Commentators though it was fine aswel apart from Noble who said it straight away. (Knock on)