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Quote: R.B.A "In general i have no time or sympathy for drug cheats. However, to put yourself in the shoes of a teenager who has just been released from a club and is looking to find "an edge" at his new club, the temptation must be there.
In saying that, he was totally mis-guided but i really hope that the RFL try to give him some guidence and that BOTH of the clubs in the city offer assistance going forward rather than turning their backs on him.'"


eusa_clap.gif eusa_clap.gif Agree with all of that

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Quote: R.B.A "In general i have no time or sympathy for drug cheats. However, to put yourself in the shoes of a teenager who has just been released from a club and is looking to find "an edge" at his new club, the temptation must be there.
In saying that, he was totally mis-guided but i really hope that the RFL try to give him some guidence and that BOTH of the clubs in the city offer assistance going forward rather than turning their backs on him.'"


interesting to know he started taking them when he signed for hull, nice little spin, good mod work.

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Quote: Sheldon "]interesting to know he started taking them when he signed for hull, nice little spin, good mod work.'"




I dont care when he started taking them. I care that a teenager felt the need to take them. Nothing to do with spin. Not everything is Hull versus Rovers mate.

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Quote: R.B.A "I dont care when he started taking them. I care that a teenager felt the need to take them. Nothing to do with spin. Not everything is Hull versus Rovers mate.'"


bit odd of you to suggest he started taking them when he signed for hull then.

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Quote: Sheldon "bit odd of you to suggest he started taking them when he signed for hull then.'"




Not really. Just going by when he tested positive thats all. I dont know how stringent the testing is at Academy level anymore so it could be concievable that he was taking them for the previous 2 years at Rovers. Like i say, i'm not bothered where he first started taking them. It really isnt a point scoring excercise in my book.

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It doesn't matter what club he was at when he started taking them, the most important thing is that he was caught before he potentially did himself some serious harm or even killed himself. As far as i am aware the stuff he tested positive to cannot be bought over the counter at a repitible place. All players are made fully aware of things they cannot use and that random testing takes place. This kid sadly choose to ignore the rules for whatever reason and now has to live with the consequences, neither Fc or Rovers can condone this.

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Quote: R.B.A "In general i have no time or sympathy for drug cheats. However, to put yourself in the shoes of a teenager who has just been released from a club and is looking to find "an edge" at his new club, the temptation must be there.
In saying that, he was totally mis-guided but i really hope that the RFL try to give him some guidence and that BOTH of the clubs in the city offer assistance going forward rather than turning their backs on him.'"


Stop it , KR fan talking sense, it's just too much icon_frustrated.gif icon_lol.gif

Well said echoes my own thoughts on the matter.

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Quote: berrigans bitch "An 18 year old should be banned for life...


What difference does it make? Any drug cheat in rugby league should be banned for life be they 16 or 36.

Impressionable or not is not an excuse, 99% of others manage to make it the fair way, the possibility of a life ban would mean only the very stupid will continue to do it and when they get caught there is no way back.

Should you really be looking for excuses for people caught taking illegal substances??

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Quote: MrPhilb "What difference does it make? Any drug cheat in rugby league should be banned for life be they 16 or 36.

Impressionable or not is not an excuse, 99% of others manage to make it the fair way, the possibility of a life ban would mean only the very stupid will continue to do it and when they get caught there is no way back.

Should you really be looking for excuses for people caught taking illegal substances??'"



Totally agree.....any drug cheat in any sport should be BANNED FOR LIFE.

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Quote: fc baldy "Totally agree.....any drug cheat in any sport should be BANNED FOR LIFE.'"


Harsh. However, a very difficult one. Is a 2 year ban enough and will the kids take the gamble if a longer ban was imposed?

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Quote: R.B.A "I dont care when he started taking them. I care that a teenager felt the need to take them. Nothing to do with spin. Not everything is Hull versus Rovers mate.'"


Are you saying or suggesting that it was, a deliberate decision by him to take the drug?

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Sorry but I have no sympathy it should be a lifetime ban end of, I don't know the young man in question but unless he's been living on Mars he must have known the implications of what he was doing. I have some knowledge of teenage kids competing in other sports at international level and they are all fully aware of the implcations of drug taking so why should it be any different in rugby league. In certain UK sports national associations not only is the player banned but so is his coach (albeit for a timed period rather than for life). Maybe if the RFL introduced something alnog these lines it would encourage the clubs to be even more proactive in education and testing than no doubt they are now

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Quote: Beanman "Sorry but I have no sympathy it should be a lifetime ban end of, I don't know the young man in question but unless he's been living on Mars he must have known the implications of what he was doing. I have some knowledge of teenage kids competing in other sports at international level and they are all fully aware of the implcations of drug taking so why should it be any different in rugby league. In certain UK sports national associations not only is the player banned but so is his coach (albeit for a timed period rather than for life). Maybe if the RFL introduced something alnog these lines it would encourage the clubs to be even more proactive in education and testing than no doubt they are now'"


Agar Out!! icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: MrPhilb "What difference does it make? Any drug cheat in rugby league should be banned for life be they 16 or 36.

Impressionable or not is not an excuse, 99% of others manage to make it the fair way, the possibility of a life ban would mean only the very stupid will continue to do it and when they get caught there is no way back.

Should you really be looking for excuses for people caught taking illegal substances??'"


Looking for excuses icon_rolleyes.gif , I am considering mitigating circumstances all of which you or me know nothing about, apart from the fact he is an young 18 year old silly boy!!

He is hardly a seasoned professionally who is at the highest level possibly due to taking illegal substances....
He has now been punished and one would hope a young impressionable person will learn his lessons from this and hopefully turn things around for himself......
18 years old took a sports related banned substance hardly a smack head is he ? yet you believe he should not just be punished but banned for life with no opportunities to learn and amend from his mistakes...whatever!

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The kid made a mistake for sure, whether that was influenced by his peers or others who knows but certainly a 2 year ban is punishment enough for the crime. Anyone saying he should be banned for life really need to get a grip.
Should those who speed in their cars be banned from driving forever? Should a first time shoplifter be banned from going into shops?
Should a parent who smacks their child for the first time have them taken away & not be allowed children?
Can anyone truely say they have never made a mistake in their life, and that mistake not been punished even though it directly affected others.
Jesus I'd hate for those calling for a life ban to be on a jury!

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