for me horne needs to up his game a lot to get anywhere near the squad next year, and i think briscoe and hall are better then yeaman most of the time.

Whiting is a better fullback than Horne, imo. Good positional play there, a good reader of the game, and looked dangerous last night.

Agree totally.

We will see a different Richard Horne next year with Sean Long partnering him. IMO of course.

That's the problem with Horne though. He needs someone good alongside him to make him look any good. Bench player for me next year.

Big season coming up for Kirk, 2010 the last year of his current contract. At the same time you've got Briscoe coming through and Hall looking established, plus Turner coming in. Could go in the second row, but we've got Fitz and Manu as first choice, plus Tickle, Radford, Burnett.

Turner is coming to play in his prefered Loose Forward position?

Yeaman, R Horne and Berrigan, none of them where missed, looked a goodteam without them. The next 2 games may tell a story to Agar,

Horne will be 6 next year and Yeaman will be our No1 centre and that is were they belong.

It's no longer that straightforward. The team should be picked on merit not past achievement. If they play well enough to hold down their places then fair enough. Otherwise someone else plays. Neither have done anything to warrant automatic choice this season. They don't "belong" anywhere just like the rest of the squad.

IMO it is that straight forward and we will see what happens.

For me, Horne has had a poor season, and Washbrook has appeared this season to be a much better Stand-Off than him. However, for next season I would like to see Washbrook at Loose-forward, which would mean Horne at Stand-off, unless we sign someone.

I do think that Whiting at fullback, Tansey at 6, Long at 7 and Washbrook at 13 is the way to go, though.

At centre, I like yeaman. I think that he's a strong player, good runner, and everyone loves his signiture dump-tackle. However, in the last few games Hall as looked fantastic there. Always a danger to the oppositions try-line, quick, and with good defence. Next season I would like to see competition for places between Hall, Yeaman and Briscoe. All well as giving us 3 good centres, it'll also push them to be as good as they can.
Judging by recent form, I'd probably choose Hall and Briscoe over Yeaman, though.

However, due to their history and reputation within the club, I do think that Horne and Yeaman will be, if they don't get further injuries, constants in the starting 11. Which I don't agree with.

For me, next season we should line up as:
Whiting, Calderwood, Briscoe, Hall, Raynor, Tansey, Long, Dowes, Houghton, O'Meley, Fitzgibbon, Tickle, Washbrook, Subs: Lauaki, Moa, Manu, Berrigan. Gives us a strong pack, with plenty of creativity from people like Whiting, Tansey, Long, Houghton and Washbrook.

They belong there if they're the best in that position and they still are for me. Yeaman is still the best centre at the club and Horne the best off half. It was no coincidence that last night our pack was on top which allowed the half backs to play, how many times as that happened this season? The best half backs in the world can not perform behind a beaten pack and hopefully that's now been resolved with the recruitment for next year. It's all about opinions though and it would be dull on here if we all agreed.

Evening Chris.

I must have missed these games were Whiting looked good at fullback