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Quote: Darkside Dave "As I've previously stated I'm happy to be proven wrong, in fact I'd be delighted but we haven't improved since 2016 & 2017 and our performances are very erratic. If we don't pick up the cup or make the Grand Final things start to look a little different. It's then a little late in the day to start making changes with the pre-season weeks away and a squad in place.'"

The club isn't as well resourced as the perennial SL winners, who either have benefactors, bigger fanbases, or own their own grounds. If we could have a list of clubs consistently delivering more than we do in the way of trophies/league position who are self-funded in rented stadia that would be a useful template. As a guide you would say we are doing OK working to what we have. The differential we do have in our favour is relatively strong attendances and incremental merchandise sales through cup progress lately. AP has talked about trying to get investment in but it's difficult. The club has relatively fixed budgets unless more income can be raised, so you'd need to divert cash from the playing squad to upweight the coaching side. Whether you'd get a better return, bearing in mind the finances available to the clubs mentioned, is not certain.

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I know my wishes are a bit eutopian but as a club and a fan base we are hungry for sucess. Whenever we have won a cup in the past we have failed to kick on. I just hope it doesn't happen again. All of the above are solid views I can't argue with. The inconsistency is the main cause of doubt and we have been tagged by the whole competition as the Jekyll & Hyde club. I just don't want the wheels to fall off. I'm desperate for us to lift the Super League title.

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Got another semi-final to go and attend shortly.
#we'veneverhaditsof00ingood

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Quote: WIZEB "Got another semi-final to go and attend shortly.
#we'veneverhaditsof00ingood'"
We're not alone this season with inconsistency,. But of the inconsistent teams, we're doing the best to ride that wave.

Putting out a team with a consistant 17 will help with consistency, which will help with confidence, which will help results.

This post wasn't supposed to be a quote to your post, but the one above yours.

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We lost our first 2 games, we've lost our last 2 games and we've apparently been the most inconsistent team in between. Yet we're in a better position than 9 of the other 11 clubs in the league.

There must be somethings we're doing right?

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Quote: Darkside Dave "I know my wishes are a bit eutopian but as a club and a fan base we are hungry for sucess. Whenever we have won a cup in the past we have failed to kick on. I just hope it doesn't happen again. All of the above are solid views I can't argue with. The inconsistency is the main cause of doubt and we have been tagged by the whole competition as the Jekyll & Hyde club. I just don't want the wheels to fall off. I'm desperate for us to lift the Super League title.'"

They are the wishes of all 12 clubs and fanbases. I suspect there's a bit of "what we have we hold" in that the last 4 seasons have been amongst our best in a generation, and in the context of a Grand Final success glass ceiling we have more to lose than win. At least we have a Jekyll. Without it we'd be mired in the crappy relegation dogfight. icon_lol.gif

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we will never finish top of the league until we make the kc some sort of fortress.

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Quote: fosdyke99 "we will never finish top of the league until we make the kc some sort of fortress.'"
The beauty of it is, you don't need to finish top of the league to win the grand prize, you just need to still be standing in the final game of the season.

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id still rather us finish top,thats the true measure of the champion team ,not finishing 5th and winning a couple of knockout games at end of season.we have one knockout trophy,no need for two.

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Quote: fosdyke99 "id still rather us finish top,thats the true measure of the champion team ,not finishing 5th and winning a couple of knockout games at end of season.we have one knockout trophy,no need for two.'"


I agree
There is not enough importance about finishing top of the league either by fans or the RFL in terms of money for the winners.
To make it meaningful the top team should automatically be given a place in the grand final and let the other top four teams play off for the other final place.

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Quote: bonaire "I agree
There is not enough importance about finishing top of the league either by fans or the RFL in terms of money for the winners.
To make it meaningful the top team should automatically be given a place in the grand final and let the other top four teams play off for the other final place.'"

The problem with doing it that way, is that whoever finishes top, would then have a three week break, which may be more of a disadvantage than the current system.

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Quote: fosdyke99 "id still rather us finish top,thats the true measure of the champion team ,not finishing 5th and winning a couple of knockout games at end of season.we have one knockout trophy,no need for two.'"
But that isn't the measure though, is it?

Every club knows the rules at the start of the season on how the grand prize is won.

If a sprinter wins every race of the season, with ease, but fails to win the Olympic final, then they are not the Olympic champion.

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this system promotes mediocraty and teams like hull can get away with being inconsistent.radford isn't too bothered by the odd thrashing as long as we make the 5.to finish 5th in a league of 12 says to me you aren't championship material.knock out trophies are good,but the best team doesn't always win it.the league should be more about stamina and season long consistency.but this is just my opinion.

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Quote: fosdyke99 "this system promotes mediocraty and teams like hull can get away with being inconsistent.radford isn't too bothered by the odd thrashing as long as we make the 5.to finish 5th in a league of 12 says to me you aren't championship material.knock out trophies are good,but the best team doesn't always win it.the league should be more about stamina and season long consistency.but this is just my opinion.'"
But if the aim was to finish top to be the champions, then clubs would approach it a different way.

We went all out for it in 2016, and almost won a treble, but we ran out of steam in the final furlong. Maybe Radford has learnt from that, and is managing our tilt at the crown differently?

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Quote: fosdyke99 "this system promotes mediocraty and teams like hull can get away with being inconsistent.radford isn't too bothered by the odd thrashing as long as we make the 5.to finish 5th in a league of 12 says to me you aren't championship material.knock out trophies are good,but the best team doesn't always win it.the league should be more about stamina and season long consistency.but this is just my opinion.'"

Season would be all but over for clubs currently in places 3-10 applying your system. Not enough sustained interest.

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