But, if their membership was to increase significantly again, then maybe the club would recognise them again.

The Black and whites already seem to have in place what a lot of us on here are looking for. With an increased membership and maybe a willingness to liten to members, this could be the perfect platform to spark up a new, more positive relationship with the club. With lot's of new members and more £££'s coming in, an approach from the black on whites about providing training equipment at the Boulevard would surely see the board listen.

That's correct.

I don't think the disabled supporters who have got additional car parking spaces this year through myself and FC Voices would agree, but hey ho,I and all the disabled supporters are not worth a w**k

(don't mean to go on about disabled supporters but this is my representation in the group)

As in any situation like this represntative (or unrepresentative) bodies are always toothless.

The only way anything like this could ever work in the future would be if an agreement were to be sought between the club and the groups for firstly them to be acknowledged and secondly them to not be censored for fear of being banned like Humberside etc.

Our club only seems to want to know the rosey positives and then the negatives dont/arent allowed to even be mentioned.

Rule is running a very dangerous line for me linking himself so closely to Agar etc, if the board see the gates drop and season passes fall next year Rule may be with Agar out of the door.

Does anyone know how you join the B&W's, do they even want more members, would they welcome some new blood?

There is a form that needs to be filled in and a fee (can't remember how much). The form could do to be more readily available imo and I am sure that they would always welcome more new blood.

As I say, I feel that recruiting new people to the black and whites is a better idea then starting someting from scratch.

i think it used to be a fiver a month, something ive never got round to joining myself but more than willing too.

Combine this and the fans group together to being a new Black and Whites Supporters Trust

Supporters of Hull Independent Trust.

Oh wait...

I'm interested in joining, but only if it doesn't have an "old guard" that make all the decisions along their own opinions etc.

No worries. Are you coming over for the game tonight? if so pop over and have a word and I'll tell you what I know about the organisation.

They could be going through a bit of a transition period with committee members at the moment, but they certainly are not "old guard" and very much have the clubs best interests at heart.

Imight be interested Jamie,doubt that I would be welcome by the club tho......!!

You could become a member without having to give your identity away. That way you can remain a faceless keyboard warrior but with the added bonus of feeling that you are making a positive contribution to youth development etc

Im not up fo this game, am there for the Leeds game though.