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The top clubs now thats another topic isnt it worthy of discussion...

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Quote: berrigans bitch "None have gone on to set the world alight though have they.....'"


Care to list those we have retained, who have gone on to "set the world alight"?

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Quote: cod'ead "Care to list those we have retained, who have gone on to "set the world alight"?'"


Think the point is the ones we have let go have never proved we should have kept them... the ones we have, have and are still a part of our main squad.

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Quote: Staffs FC "The upshot of it is mate is that he has failed to take numerous chances to establish himself in the squad because overall his level of performance has not met the standard. Had he been good enough 60+ appearances would have enabled him to cement his place but alas he has not. There's lot's of mitigating stuff some of which you list but top quality players are not usually allowed to leave clubs except maybe for financial reasons. If Wigan Saints Leeds or Wire sign him then fair play to him he has improved his lot and maybe he will shine. I suspect however that due to his ability and track record of overall performance the top SL clubs will not be in for him and that says much IMO.'"

We've persevered with other players who have, IMO, contributed less [ioverall[/i than Hall and have less potential. But we're never going to agree on this one. icon_smile.gif

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Quote: dundeeblackandwhite "Think the point is the ones we have let go have never proved we should have kept them... the ones we have, have and are still a part of our main squad.'"


Shaun Briscoe??? We could argue if tony or tansey has been a better replacement since he's left

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Quote: Kosh "We've persevered with other players who have, IMO, contributed less [ioverall[/i than Hall and have less potential. '"


I'm trying to think who you mean. But I can't.

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Quote: Amadeo Avogadro "I'm trying to think who you mean. But I can't.'"

Graeme Horne - played 101 games? Tommy Lee lasted about the same time and played the same number of games I think. Just guessing.

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Quote: Mrs Barista "Graeme Horne - played 101 games?

Tommy Lee lasted about the same time and played the same number of games I think. Just guessing.'"


I think both of those players were shown the door at the earliest opportunity by the current coach, weren't they? Or perhaps we're just becoming a little more ruthless in our approach to players who look unlikely to make the grade. I seem to remember having similar disagreements with people about Lee, if it comes to it. Some on here were saying he was the long term replacement for Berrigan, whilst I was saying he was only good enough for a lower end SL club or the championship. I don't think Lee has proved me wrong yet, and I strongly suspect Hall never will either.

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Quote: bigcjlchris "Shaun Briscoe??? We could argue if tony or tansey has been a better replacement since he's left'"


Don't get me wrong here, I like briscoe but can you really see this season he has performed well.. personally I think Tansey has been better.. he still makes stupid decisions at times but with time on his side he can improve.. just my opinion tho..

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Hull have a habit of keeping players to long in the hope they come good, matty dale, Nathan freer, g.horne, t.lee to name a few. Now the issue is that Is either the club's fault for not harnessing their potential and duly keeping them to long or the players get into a comfort zone of thinking they have made it and the club duly keeping hold of them again. A more ruthless approach I agree with as we have kept hold of some right rubbish

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Quote: fc casual "Hull have a habit of keeping players to long in the hope they come good, matty dale, Nathan freer, g.horne, t.lee to name a few. Now the issue is that Is either the club's fault for not harnessing their potential and duly keeping them to long or the players get into a comfort zone of thinking they have made it and the club duly keeping hold of them again. A more ruthless approach I agree with as we have kept hold of some right rubbish'"


I honestly don't think the club can be held responsible for not harnessing their 'potential' as none of these players have gone on and done [ianything[/i of note after leaving.
I also don't think there's a problem with keeping said players a little while longer to see if they make the grade. 'IF' they're not taking someone else's place at the club, in hindsight none of these players have hindered the progress of other players; they've had mostly bit part involvement.

The main problem for me is that there’s no one else pushing them out of the squad/team earlier.

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40 tries in 72 appearances during our most woeful time in SL would suggest he will do well in a team that has a better defensive structure than our own. At his best in attack certainly not far off Sam Tompkins, with a proper coach he may well do very nicely. All those saying he is Championship material are fools!

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Quote: knockersbumpMKII "40 tries in 72 appearances during our most woeful time in SL would suggest he will do well in a team that has a better defensive structure than our own. At his best in attack certainly not far off Sam Tompkins, with a proper coach he may well do very nicely. All those saying he is Championship material are fools!'"



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Even in attack he has lots work to do, poor handling and choices need improving along with strenght.

Apart from the odd moment of skill in the last 2 years I haven't seen anything from him apart from walk in trys.

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Quote: knockersbumpMKII "At his best in attack certainly not far off Sam Tompkins, '"


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Quote: bigcjlchris "his biggest problem is poisitioning quote]

correct!!! off the field is his best at present

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