Not the best game but credit to Catalan...a real strong defensive effort with injuries impacting their interchange options.
Thought Carols defensive was impressive and did well with ball in hand. all our props stood up well...again. We offered little in attack but that will come time.

Nothing to get too concerned about for me...Catalan will go well this year imo

hopefully ellis be ok, if Hadley missing what about giving matongo a bench spot? as for griffin thought he played ok tbf

We certainly seem to go go to pieces when Ellis goes off,lets hope he's back soon.Didn't think Catalan were much better than us but they were more organised,half backs kicked well and they had Greg Bird who was instrumental in their try just after half time.

It wasn't as bad a game as you are making out. There was a lot of intensity in the game and the battle between Manu, Taylor, Watts and Haughton against Moa, Bird and Casty was fantastic with some cracking hits put in. Catalans were superb tonight particularly defensively and with Walsh stepping into 9 when it got heated their game management was good. They have always been capable of performances like that and on their day they can beat anyone in Super League, they just don't have the squad to maintain it over a season. You missed Kelly tonight, that spark and individual threat to unlock their defense was sorely missed. But as one or two of you have mentioned, it was your discipline that cost you the game. I think Hull genuinely have the best 17 in Super League, the only side that has quality in both the backs and the pack. But you are also the dumbest side in the league without question. Watts lifting for the penalty was mind blowing and there were several other completely unnecessary penalties conceded.

Same as last year at times tbh but minus the .1% we had to get the victory

Im normally Tuimavaves biggest critic but he was decent tonight. Green/Bowden invisible, same old directionless without Ellis off the pitch. Mini had a good game as did Manu, Fonua and Tala tried but with very little ball. Sneeeeeyd was poor, Conner looks a squad player at best. Thompson and Washbrook both average infact all subs poor

bit early to write conner off, agree we need to shake up the bench,

frustrating ame all round, compared to the two games at the start of last year we are a long way from that.
Work to be done and players need a bollocking, the discipline was bloody awful at times.

Very frustrating.
Catalan came with a plan and we fell for it !
We look very poor with ball in hand , if Sneyd's kicks don't come off we lack ideas . Hopefully Kelly will bring a plan b !
Conner is not a halfback, that was clearly evident tonight .
Also get Fonua back in the centre where he belongs !
Our descipline is terrible , timing was way out . Maybe a few more needed some more pre season game time instead of making our pre season a run out for the under 23 's !

Really poor performance, shocking discipline (this was bad in pre season and hasn't improved), handling and being dumb. Defence was good, but that's about it, too early to write players and the team off, but need big improvement across the park.

its only game 2, our defence in the last 2 games looks fine, we are struggling in attack though, Kelly will help that and with more games we should get better, our bench looks light imo, A match we could have won but fair play to cats,

Awful game. From the first minute to the last fc were awful. Credit to Catalans, they played a blinder, slowing the game right down and sucking us into it (and hicks). Have to question the dragons gamesmanship tactics though, how long does play stop for minor treatment?

Id rather see Masi on the subs bench than Thompson tbh

Totally agree with pre season game time needed. We look poor with ball in hand low skills. Don't want to be gloomy but!

your right about Thompson, we need to get Hadley turgut or masi on the bench give us a bit more grunt,

Don't get what the big downer is with Thompson by some on here. He certainly wasn't the poorest player out there.
And how do you know turgut or masi will give us more grunt?