I know Westerman came to us but FC can't claim to offer a real opportunity compete at the top anymore, so we shouldn't be surprised if in a year or two the likes of Moa and Briscoe head off for the likes of Wigan or Warrington... if you were them wouldn't you?

It's Manu I feel really sorry for though, he'd look a worldbeater in some of the other teams in SL, instead he's p!ssed away his peak years trundling along with us.

If he can get to 60 mins a game he'll get a few offers.

we need to tie him to a long deal, one of the few players who is quality week in, week out

no doubt in true FC tradition we'll mess about and he'll leave though

I can certainly see his stock rising as the season goes on.

Why would Moa sign now, it wouldn't make sense for him.

Why wouldn't it? He loves it here and is playing well.

Maybe he wants to play for a top club and have a chance of winning things?

If he has a good season he could easily add another 20k to his contract, there's not a abundance of props atm and with some uk ones been linked to the nrl he could get his pick of clubs.

Quote: Irregular Hoops "I'd be amazed if Moa stays next year. No doubt head back to the NRL. Or Warrington.'" Funny you should say that. When I read this article on Moa I thought it sounded like he was going as he seemed to refer to his time at FC in the past tense. www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... ticle.html He also refers to himself as a "bargain" so will, quite rightly, be expecting a decent upgrade.

Quote: Irregular Hoops "I'd be amazed if Moa stays next year. No doubt head back to the NRL. Or Warrington.'" Funny you should say that. When I read this article on Moa I thought it sounded like he was going as he seemed to refer to his time at FC in the past tense. www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... ticle.html He also refers to himself as a "bargain" so will, quite rightly, be expecting a decent upgrade.

Possibly but in the hypothetical scenario that we're 4 from 12 at Easter and other clubs start showing an interest at the right end of the table, will it be enough?

If we are 4 from 12 I doubt I will give a feck by then

But I agree it will probably not be enough, imagine how good he would be with 2 good h/backs!

as a neutral - so far there has been 13 pages of the usual doom 'n gloom,Agar out guff etc blah blah blah plusall the usual excuses...

can't just one of you face the horrible truth being that you were beaten by the better side on the day ?

if you want doom 'n gloom,try being a Catalans fan ..............

Can't have read the thread mate. Most of us agree we were beaten by the better team. They played better than us.

Now, that doesn't mean we have to be happy about it. Last year, we watched our team play dull, uninspiring rugby for large parts of the season. First game in, after new recruitment and a full close season to work at it, our team is still making the same errors, playing the same ineffective tactics, and in fact looked less fit than last year. That's down to one thing, and thats the coaching. That's why some of us want a new coach pretty sharpish, because in the opinion of many of us we will win nowt with Agar in charge.

If we keep Agar longer than 10 games, I hope he proves me wrong. He didn't last year, though.

I am sure he will get an improved contract offer from the club.