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| It isn't just from our game, but this six again from the referees is making the game a calamity. We want intense, close games. This is just killing players, the spectacle isn't great. They have gone overboard on the six again infringements. You can't tell me that all of those would be given as penalties in a game pre-lockdown?
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| Quote: Wilde 3 "It isn't just from our game, but this six again from the referees is making the game a calamity. We want intense, close games. This is just killing players, the spectacle isn't great. They have gone overboard on the six again infringements. You can't tell me that all of those would be given as penalties in a game pre-lockdown?'"
I agree it’s like basketball, but we’ve got to get better at it, Thaler is probably the best referee we have, so god knows what will happen with the rest of the officials.
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| Quote: Wilde 3 "It isn't just from our game, but this six again from the referees is making the game a calamity. We want intense, close games. This is just killing players, the spectacle isn't great. They have gone overboard on the six again infringements. You can't tell me that all of those would be given as penalties in a game pre-lockdown?'"
Can't agree more, I thought the second half became a mess, nothing to do with who was playing.
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| Quote: Wilde 3 "It isn't just from our game, but this six again from the referees is making the game a calamity. We want intense, close games. This is just killing players, the spectacle isn't great. They have gone overboard on the six again infringements. You can't tell me that all of those would be given as penalties in a game pre-lockdown?'"
Agreed. At one point I heard “set restart.... Albert Kelly” three times in a row. If Kelly gave away three penalties in a row Thaler would’ve given a team warning surely?
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| Quote: Chris71 "For me the loss to Warrington just showed more evidence that for far too long Hull FC coaching has relied on individual player talent rather than implementing and instilling playing structures into the team ethos. Its clearly evident that once we lose a couple of key players we struggle in game situations as we just do not look like an organised team and it the fall back is back to individual play, When you look at St's for example they can lose a number of key players yet the still play to the same style and structure and players that come in slot in as though they are regulars. This just doesn't seem to happen with Hull as it just looks like they've never played together.
This is another reason why we are probably so inconsistent as we rely on the performance of individuals rather than the sum of the components in the team.
The philosophy has to change and Last as interim and/or whoever will be the Coach needs to put proper structures in place so no matter who plays we have purpose and a clear idea of what we are doing in the 80 mins.
I seem to remember something Peter Gentle said while he was here in an interview about something along these lines in that the players we had at the time were struggling to grasp what he was asking them to do and change the way we play and just wonder if this is what he meant and was trying to change.'"
100% spot on.
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| Quote: Chris71 "I seem to remember something Peter Gentle said while he was here in an interview about something along these lines in that the players we had at the time were struggling to grasp what he was asking them to do and change the way we play and just wonder if this is what he meant and was trying to change.'"
LR said the same - tell Ratu once and he understood straight away, tell some others 25 times and they still didn't get it.
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| Quote: Wilde 3 "It isn't just from our game, but this six again from the referees is making the game a calamity. We want intense, close games. This is just killing players, the spectacle isn't great. They have gone overboard on the six again infringements. You can't tell me that all of those would be given as penalties in a game pre-lockdown?'"
I agree
All its doing is promoting big scoring games
The balance is not right
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| Quote: bonaire "Quote: bonaire "It isn't just from our game, but this six again from the referees is making the game a calamity. We want intense, close games. This is just killing players, the spectacle isn't great. They have gone overboard on the six again infringements. You can't tell me that all of those would be given as penalties in a game pre-lockdown?'"
I agree
All its doing is promoting big scoring games
The balance is not right'"
I tend to agree, I think pre Covid the 6 again rule would have been ok but all it has done is make games a nonsense. As with the limited recovery with such short turn a rounds to get games the players/teams are already finding it difficult so once you give 2 or 3 repeat sets of 6 in quick succession the game is over as teams just can't come back from it.
Unfortunately there is no clear or consistent way that the 6 again rule appears to be applied and this just makes a further mockery of the games so far. Players are going to tire and the referee's and RFL have to account for this having an affect not just ping teams repeatedly for 6 again.
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| Quote: Chris71 "I tend to agree, I think pre Covid the 6 again rule would have been ok but all it has done is make games a nonsense. As with the limited recovery with such short turn a rounds to get games the players/teams are already finding it difficult so once you give 2 or 3 repeat sets of 6 in quick succession the game is over as teams just can't come back from it.
Unfortunately there is no clear or consistent way that the 6 again rule appears to be applied and this just makes a further mockery of the games so far. Players are going to tire and the referee's and RFL have to account for this having an affect not just ping teams repeatedly for 6 again.'"
It is especially difficult for the big biff and bash players favoured and signed by Radforf to adapt to the new rules.
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| Quote: Keiththered "It is especially difficult for the big biff and bash players favoured and signed by Radforf to adapt to the new rules.'"
You mean like Alex Walmsley?
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| Quote: Keiththered "It is especially difficult for the big biff and bash players favoured and signed by Radford to adapt to the new rules.'"
We haven't had a full side to find out yet.
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| Quote: ccs "We haven't had a full side to find out yet.'"
I don’t think anyone has.
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| Quote: bonaire "You mean like Alex Walmsley?'"
He’s rather more than Biff Bash
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| Quote: Keiththered "I don’t think anyone has.'"
8 or 9 players missing after 2 weeks isolation when 9 players tested positive, hardly good preparation.
The players were totally knackered before the Warrington game, something the usual suspects on here conveniently choose to ignore.
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