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| Quote: FrEaK-HullFC "I posted a similar sentiment on page 4, but i suppose if Yeamo had stepped inside and died with the ball then people would be happier ...not me i would rather see an attempt to promote some positive and exciting play.
I've been a critic for years of him not putting his winger away. This time he tried to keep the move going once he knew he was not going to make it on his own, it didn't work, but this is how i want to see us playing, with some flair and confidence.
Do we want 80% performances and leeping it safe, or do we want them team to push themselves, try things and create some memories.
With the first you get the Agar era, with the second you get some errors but you also get some amazing tries'"
He didn't have to try and make it on his own.
He had broke through and the simple thing to do would be to draw the full back and put one of the supporting players on the inside over for a try.
Nothing to do with playing with flair and confidence. That he showed when making the break.
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| Quote: Standee "Ah right, I've never seen the "run away from the support and throw a pass over your head in panic when you realise you're not going to make it" drill.
and I don't think I would if I went to every home game for 100 years.
anyway, Catalans next week, I hope Yeaman proves me to be wrong and has the game of the season.'"
No, but there is a 'catch the ball around your ankles whilst on the move' one.
Not that I'm personally going to criticise Pitts for it, but it was an error, and one that we do have a practice drill for, so it was a valid point.
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| Quote: Whiting "It's harsh to call him greedy and to state he wanted all the glory for himself, he is not that kind of player. I genuinely believe he isn't skillful enough for when in that position to do the right thing'"
This. It's a been a weakness in his game throughout his career, but I've always thought it's more about the incorrect reading of the situation rather than making the wrong choice (either intentionally or not).
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| Quote: I, on another thread, "With Yeaman, I think people are going a bit OTT for tonight. Yes, he should have passed, and yes, it was his miss for the try, but people should bear in mind that he was carrying the vast majority of Briscoe's defensive and bringing the ball out work for 60 minutes. People make the case that Briscoe struggles because he doesn't have a good centre, but nobody's made the reverse point for Yeaman tonight. He played that centre/wing practically on his own for an hour and conceded only 6 points, that's some going in my book.
Not having a good season, but has been better since coming back from injury than he was at the start of the season.'"
Think this is more appropriate in here.
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| Quote: carl_spackler "No, but there is a 'catch the ball around your ankles whilst on the move' one.
Not that I'm personally going to criticise Pitts for it, but it was an error, and one that we do have a practice drill for, so it was a valid point.'"
Does the drill include the ball getting to you on the bounce?
I wouldn't have expected anyone to pick that up TBH. It would have been a miracle take. What I would say is that Pitts would have been better off hacking it forward rather than trying to pick it up.
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| Quote: Hessle Roader "Nobody is disputing the fact that there should be competition for places. However, 18 pages of fans opinions is not going to make one jot of difference to PG's thinking, however important posters think their views are.'"
....and there we all were thinking that the coaching staff logged onto here every morning and changed their regime accordingly.
Thanks (!) for clearing that up for us Hessle Roader! I was wondering where my pay cheque was!
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| Quote: Kosh "Does the drill include the ball getting to you on the bounce?
I wouldn't have expected anyone to pick that up TBH. It would have been a miracle take. What I would say is that Pitts would have been better off hacking it forward rather than trying to pick it up.'"
As you say, it was a pretty much an impossible take from a lob, rather than a pass. Those saying Pitts should have taken it are just been plain daft imo.
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| Quote: Kosh "Does the drill include the ball getting to you on the bounce?
I wouldn't have expected anyone to pick that up TBH. It would have been a miracle take. What I would say is that Pitts would have been better off hacking it forward rather than trying to pick it up.'"
The ball was just below Pitts' knee, same position as Westerman's and Pitts had far more time to react. I'm disappointed that Pitts didn't still convert the chance, as Pitts is, I'm sure.
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| Quote: Bal "As you say, it was a pretty much an impossible take from a lob, rather than a pass. Those saying Pitts should have taken it are just been plain daft imo.'"
You really need to look again, a professional player should take that more often than not, as Westy proved.
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| Quote: Hessle Roader "Nobody is disputing the fact that there should be competition for places. However, 18 pages of fans opinions is not going to make one jot of difference to PG's thinking, however important posters think their views are.'"
Well, you could put that against most threads. And with that attitude / point of view it begs the question of whats the point in a message forum?
If your not disputing the competition for places issue, I cannot understand your opposition to a thread about an experienced player not being able to use the experience. Thankfully it didnt cost us the game. They say players learn by their mistakes. Well, how many chances is one player going to be given?
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| Quote: Kosh "Does the drill include the ball getting to you on the bounce?
I wouldn't have expected anyone to pick that up TBH. It would have been a miracle take. What I would say is that Pitts would have been better off hacking it forward rather than trying to pick it up.'"
My view of it was that it didn't bounce until after he got hands to it. The drill is pretty much the kind of ball he received, just slower. They plop the ball around shin/ankle level as players run past.
I did actually say that I wouldn't criticise him for it, as I do think that it was a very difficult take. Not impossible though, so it's not wrong to say that he also made an error, it was just more understandable and shouldn't really have been necessary as the pass should have been both earlier and better.
I do agree with east hull fc fan and others about the level of criticism being thrown at Yeaman over this, though. I don't think enough people are being fair and giving him credit for what a good game he actually had overall, and especially with the additional responsibility/difficulty Briscoe's injury caused him.
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| Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "Well, you could put that against most threads. And with that attitude / point of view it begs the question of whats the point in a message forum?
If your not disputing the competition for places issue, I cannot understand your opposition to a thread about an experienced player not being able to use the experience. Thankfully it didnt cost us the game. They say players learn by their mistakes. Well, how many chances is one player going to be given?'"
I give up. I'll maybe come back when it reach 100 pages.
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| It's easier to catch a ball around your ankles if you're expecting it to be delivered around your ankles. Like when you're doing the 'catch a ball around your ankles' drill.
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| If we drop Yeaman for Arundel we lose a lot in defence and probably get no real gain in attack.
I don't even think Yeaman is out of form, his defence has been very good as usual and we don't tend to use our left as much anymore so it's obvious his try tally will diminish.
Yeaman isn't the best centre in the league, but he's better than most.
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| Quote: Rock God X "It's easier to catch a ball around your ankles if you're expecting it to be delivered around your ankles. Like when you're doing the 'catch a ball around your ankles' drill.'"
What a rubbish excuse that is.
I'd expect goal kicking in training is a lot easier for Holdsworth too.
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