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| Quote: Rocknrolla69er "Alot of frustrated fans and rightly so.
Nobody knows exact figures financially, reading old articles Pearons very vague in the facts he gives.
Everyone presumes we pay £250k for rent.
The article states it used to be 20/30k annually when Hull city wernt in the premier league, but only shot up to £250k due to hull city playing premiership football.
My question is what happened to the rent figure when Hull City dropped back out of the premiership years ago, did that rent fee drop back down to 20/30k annually?
Its never been mentioned since city were relegated. Unless ive missed it.
How much was our covid loan?
And will the amount used to pay off the covid loan be used next season to invest in the team?
I think its about time a supporters group sat with Pearson and Smith and fired some direct questions.
Having it too cosy at the moment, with no transparancy given to fans , for future plans.
Plead poverty and then radio silence. CAN pearson push this club forward or is it being run down slowly but surely?'"
With regards the rent money, I vaguely recall reading something about it. I think it gets assessed every so many years ( not sure by who or what basis) and when it was last assessed it was when City were in the PL so it went up. Think they went down that season so it fell unluckily.
All a bit vague I know but I don't remember all the details. Hopefully it gets reevaluated again soon!
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| Quote: Dave K. "What are peoples thoughts on Jake Bibby, probably better than Carlos, but I'd be looking at either someone younger with more potential or an overseas player the quality of Salfords two centres.'"
Never thought he was out special and been poor at Huddersfield. Can’t get in their team despite being on good money. Young lads like Wallis and Halsall keeping him out the team. Wouldn’t go near him.
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| Quote: FC Callum "Never thought he was out special and been poor at Huddersfield. Can’t get in their team despite being on good money. Young lads like Wallis and Halsall keeping him out the team. Wouldn’t go near him.'"
Championship level
gone to Wakefield
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| Quote: bonaire "Championship level
gone to Wakefield'"
You thinking about Olpherts? He has signed for Wakefield today.
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| Quote: FC Callum "You thinking about Olpherts? He has signed for Wakefield today.'"
yes sorry i was
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| What youngsters and what positions do we have that are likely to step up next season?
Kye Armstrong loose forward/second row
Jack Charles half back
Jeylan Hodgson hooker
Cobie Wainhouse Prop
Roman Dawson centre
Anyone think theyl be ready?
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| Quote: Rocknrolla69er "What youngsters and what positions do we have that are likely to step up next season?
Kye Armstrong loose forward/second row
Jack Charles half back
Jeylan Hodgson hooker
Cobie Wainhouse Prop
Roman Dawson centre
Anyone think theyl be ready?'"
Sadly I do think any of them will be ready to properly challenge.
Wainhouse is recovering well from his ACL surgery and has a pretty good attitude. He’ll be 18 by preseason, I reckon he’ll overtake Gardner in the pecking order and he’ll make a couple appearances.
Kye Armstrong is a tough one, he’s a talent but think there’s just a few players ahead of him.
I think Jack Charles will have a good future but needs to fill out and work on his defense.
Hodgson & Dawson probably 2 years away from challenging the team sheet I think
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| Wainhouse is supposed to be a freak and very talented.
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| Quote: Rocknrolla69er "What youngsters and what positions do we have that are likely to step up next season?
Kye Armstrong loose forward/second row
Jack Charles half back
Jeylan Hodgson hooker
Cobie Wainhouse Prop
Roman Dawson centre
Anyone think theyl be ready?'" If you told me we could sign 1 of them to a lifelong deal it would be Armstrong and I wouldn’t even need to think about it.
I’m obviously not saying he is going to have the same career but it’s clear he has modelled his game on Isaah Yeo as they have similar frames and both play that first receiver but with a run threat as well
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| Quote: Rocknrolla69er "Alot of frustrated fans and rightly so.
Nobody knows exact figures financially, reading old articles Pearons very vague in the facts he gives.
Everyone presumes we pay £250k for rent.
The article states it used to be 20/30k annually when Hull city wernt in the premier league, but only shot up to £250k due to hull city playing premiership football.
My question is what happened to the rent figure when Hull City dropped back out of the premiership years ago, did that rent fee drop back down to 20/30k annually?
Its never been mentioned since city were relegated. Unless ive missed it.
How much was our covid loan?
And will the amount used to pay off the covid loan be used next season to invest in the team?
I think its about time a supporters group sat with Pearson and Smith and fired some direct questions.
Having it too cosy at the moment, with no transparancy given to fans , for future plans.
Plead poverty and then radio silence. CAN pearson push this club forward or is it being run down slowly but surely?'"
I always thought our rent was 50% of all gate money, received above that from the first 7,500 fans. 7,500 being our average crowd during our last season at The Boulevard.
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| Quote: Rugby Raider "I always thought our rent was 50% of all gate money, received above that from the first 7,500 fans. 7,500 being our average crowd during our last season at The Boulevard.'"
Think there was set figure plus percentage of gates after 7,500 plus the stadium got the fees from concessions. Cue Wilf (Pete). Not sure if the SMC still purchase 1000 passes
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| Quote: Ellam "Wainhouse is supposed to be a freak and very talented.'"
Yeah, been putting effort in away from ground as well. He’s moved over to Hull very young and clubs been doing a lot to help him mature.
Think he just needs to have physical development that comes early 20’s. That’s the same for a lot of our youth. As talented as some of our fringe players just not physical enough yet.
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| Quote: Rugby Raider "I always thought our rent was 50% of all gate money, received above that from the first 7,500 fans. 7,500 being our average crowd during our last season at The Boulevard.'"
Exactly my point nobody truly knows, abit of transparancy is well.overdue
And appreciate the info on the younger lads, id read a few werw well thought of which is the ones ive listed. Just wonder if we l be youth orientated with promotions rather than senior signings. Sounds like most of those ive listed will maybe meed a loan before being blooded by us. So we may well see mainly new signings rather than a mixture as seen this season
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| Quote: Rugby Raider "I always thought our rent was 50% of all gate money, received above that from the first 7,500 fans. 7,500 being our average crowd during our last season at The Boulevard.'"
That was what I remember from when we moved, and I seem to recall Hetherington/Rule using it as an excuse for not doing ticket deals as a bigger crowd didnt mean more income.
Details of the deal are confidential so Pearson can't openly tell us even if he wanted to. But at least we have someone who knows every clause as he signed it from the SMC side of the table.
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| Quote: Armavinit "Think there was set figure plus percentage of gates after 7,500 plus the stadium got the fees from concessions. Cue Wilf (Pete). Not sure if the SMC still purchase 1000 passes
Based upon the original deal, if still in place.
Assume average crowd is 12,500 (5k above the 7.5k base) and average admission is £20 (mix of adults, kids, concessions, offers)
Then 5,000 x £20 x 50% x 13 games = £650,000 per season to SMC, which sounds about right.
Not aware of any other fixed fee.
If this is correct, then as someone else said, the incremental benefit of extra fans is lower. For instance, reducing the Rovers away allocation would actually cost us £10k revenue per 1,000 tickets.
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