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| Quote: HU8HFC "I have found myself being pretty critical of Lane, and it is justified in my opinion. He really hasn't kicked on from the promise he showed when he broke through, if anything he has regressed pretty badly. He made 50+ tackles on Friday, granted, but was at fault for two try's, and unfortunately that is a common theme for him. He is far too weak, and with being at the risk of been a bit brutal, is Championship fodder. Would much rather Staveley/Severs get a chance to show their worth.
But, what I will say about Lane, is that he is another example of the utterly shocking contracts we have handed out over recent seasons. For that the club only has itself to blame.'"
Very well put
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Quote: HU8HFC "I have found myself being pretty critical of Lane, and it is justified in my opinion. He really hasn't kicked on from the promise he showed when he broke through, if anything he has regressed pretty badly. He made 50+ tackles on Friday, granted, but was at fault for two try's, and unfortunately that is a common theme for him. He is far too weak, and with being at the risk of been a bit brutal, is Championship fodder. Would much rather Staveley/Severs get a chance to show their worth.
But, what I will say about Lane, is that he is another example of the utterly shocking contracts we have handed out over recent seasons. For that the club only has itself to blame.'"
With hindsight. His extension was announced 2 years ago today, and a lot can change it that time. The initial reaction was positive on here, so it wasn’t an obvious ‘WTF?’ moment.
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Quote: HU8HFC "I have found myself being pretty critical of Lane, and it is justified in my opinion. He really hasn't kicked on from the promise he showed when he broke through, if anything he has regressed pretty badly. He made 50+ tackles on Friday, granted, but was at fault for two try's, and unfortunately that is a common theme for him. He is far too weak, and with being at the risk of been a bit brutal, is Championship fodder. Would much rather Staveley/Severs get a chance to show their worth.
But, what I will say about Lane, is that he is another example of the utterly shocking contracts we have handed out over recent seasons. For that the club only has itself to blame.'"
With hindsight. His extension was announced 2 years ago today, and a lot can change it that time. The initial reaction was positive on here, so it wasn’t an obvious ‘WTF?’ moment.
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| Quote: Mild Rover "With hindsight. His extension was announced 2 years ago today, and a lot can change it that time. The initial reaction was positive on here, so it wasn’t an obvious ‘WTF?’ moment.
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| Quote: hull2524 "Walker
Russell
Mac
Litten
Martin
Hoy
Smith
Ashworth
Brown
J Brown
Sao
Oku
Staverly
Subs
Bullock
Gardiner
Houghton
Lane'"
Not a bad shout, though I'd like to see Balmforth on the bench in place of Lane, should Houghton be passed fit he could go to 13 and Staveley in 2nd row with Sao moving to the front row. Also would give us the option of bringing Balmforth on and moving Brown to 13 to limit Houghtons minutes if possible.
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| Quote: Dave K. "Exactly this, we can't be accepting mediocracy, maybe Lane had a better game than a few games last season, but he was still average at best, granted he made a lot of tackles against Warrington (mainly as he played hooker for a spell), but as you say, was responsible for the first try, in which he was tackling a 19 year old halfback. I want more from our forwards than a few tackles too, I want them to be making makes, making meters after contact and offloading, he has done none of these this season. Both him and Ockunbor are under pressure to perform.'"
Especialy Ockunbor
starting to look like another Kane Evans
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| Quote: davey41 "Absolutely.
I would love to sit down with him and discuss what he sees and what he knows.
We don’t see players day in day out at training.
But I stand by the errors I have pointed out and my opinion that it is not good enough.
A couple of fans have said that he has been good in their opinion but that is being very generous as far as I’m concerned.'"
Errors are only one part of the on field indicipline
Penalties and six agains are far higher on the list.
I have said this several times before but how many times do we finish a set in the opposition 10/20 then give away a penalty on the first or second tackle,then a six again or repeated six again followed by a try.
Our on field indiscipline is shocking and Smith has to take the blame for that as the coach.In fact looking at last season the indiscipline under Smith its getting worse.
Fans keep bleatiing on about how badly we are treated by referees and the disiplinary panel but Brown apart we have only ourselves to blame.
Until Smith sorts this out it hard to see apart fro London where we can pick up points as even Castleford look a far better team than we do
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| Quote: bonaire "Especialy Ockunbor
starting to look like another Kane Evans'"
You was the one was saying we should be patient and give him a chance.
He's played two games in unfamiliar conditions and in a team that's played two halves with twelve men. Let's at least give him until firmer grounds are here.
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| Quote: Chris71 "Not a bad shout, though I'd like to see Balmforth on the bench in place of Lane, should Houghton be passed fit he could go to 13 and Staveley in 2nd row with Sao moving to the front row. Also would give us the option of bringing Balmforth on and moving Brown to 13 to limit Houghtons minutes if possible.'"
That makes a lot more sense to me but i still dont think Balmforth is Smiths flavour of the month and will miss out
We will see Sunday
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| Quote: Mild Rover "With hindsight. His extension was announced 2 years ago today, and a lot can change it that time. The initial reaction was positive on here, so it wasn’t an obvious ‘WTF?’ moment.
Thanks for reminding me I once thought he would go on to be captain
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| Quote: ComeOnYouUll "You was the one was saying we should be patient and give him a chance.
He's played two games in unfamiliar conditions and in a team that's played two halves with twelve men. Let's at least give him until firmer grounds are here.'"
OK Captain will do
He is not a racehorse who you only run when the ground suits them
from what i have seen he will turn out to be another Kane Evans
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| Quote: bonaire "Especialy Ockunbor
starting to look like another Kane Evans'"
The early signs don't look that promising but it's a little unfair to write him off after a couple of games. It must be taken into account the big change in culture both on and off the field for NRL players. Better players than him have struggled to make an immediate impact.
What goes against him is even before he arrived are the comments from the majority of Bulldogs fans when he signed for us.
I fear that you may be right but let him get a few games under his belt before we can judge how good a signing he is.
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| We had our 5? Most experienced and highest earners missing Friday.
Truman, Carlos,Houghton,Pele,Ese.
6th player okunbor was taken off 2nd half, not sure what happened to him?
Lane, is struggling but so is most of the the squad.
He wasn’t the only player missing tackles, but they did give it a real dig.
We have by far the worst discipline in SL. Getting these players back and improving discipline.
Then lets see how Lane goes.
The clubs social media & coaching staff are happy enough with lane as they posted his Stats..
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| looks like Houghton is back sunday, really hope Smith keeps Brown at 9 and not moved back to 7
chance that Carlos may play too, but i won't hold my breath!
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| Quote: boardwalkempire4 "We had our 5? Most experienced and highest earners missing Friday.
Truman, Carlos,Houghton,Pele,Ese.
6th player okunbor was taken off 2nd half, not sure what happened to him?
Lane, is struggling but so is most of the the squad.
He wasn’t the only player missing tackles, but they did give it a real dig.
We have by far the worst discipline in SL. Getting these players back and improving discipline.
Then lets see how Lane goes.
The clubs social media & coaching staff are happy enough with lane as they posted his Stats..'"
I appreciate what you’re saying in regards to Lane but in all fairness he has performed poorly for the last couple of seasons. It’s that reason that many have are rightly questioning/criticising him. It was even said by a number of us in the off season that he really needed to hit the ground running if he was in the 17 at the start of the season but he simply hasn’t regardless of anyone else’s performances.
As Bonaire has said many times our discipline has been and continues to be poor, Lane falls into the category of being one of our worst offenders.
Someone mentioned the word scapegoat but that is not something you can really say about Jordan as most comments whilst being critical are based on evidence over the past couple of seasons.
He is no longer a youngster and is now a more senior and experienced figure but for me we haven’t seen anything near the potential he showed when he broke into the first team.
As has been said I think it just shows the incompetence in terms of the contracts handed out in terms of length etc based on no more than average performances.
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