Of course dispaointed to go out but some really promising signs with our team spirit and work ethic and liked that Hoy was unpredictable in attack.

We all know there are limits to what this squad can do, some just arent top6 players while theres salary cap (such as Shaul) just wasted sat in the stands. Im confident Smith is getting things in place for a better 2024, but what signings we make is of course key.

I have played the game to a decent standard, which is why I stated it was no excuse for griffin and its something that could have waited until after the game if he wanted clarity on certain decisions.

You're on a hull forum telling people to shut up and move on? How about if you don't like it shut up and bugger off to redvee, Wellens in this week I take it?

I'd never tell anyone here to shut up and move on. I was talking about players shutting up and moving on.

Did you say the same about your club slagging refs?
Alibert & Hicks in particular.

Then my apologies, I misinterpreted what you meant. FWIW I agree Griffin should have just kept his mouth shut, cost us the game.

It doesn't hide the fact that Kendall is an absolutely appalling excuse for a RL official, but will be free to officiate next week despite his constant incompetence.

Weird that four of our last five reds came with Kendall as ref.

They may or may not have been correct calls but even so it's a notable stat.

Just watching a rerun of the game and the Fash and Griffin incidents.
Peacock and Wilkin practically frothing at the mouth saying Fash was an intentional shoulder to the head
Fash is in the tackle and has his arms trapped in the tackle and Percival has a hold of Fash. They go down in the tackle and Fash seems to simply land on Percival and there’s not a lot a player can do in that as he couldn’t go anywhere.

As for Griffin it doesn’t look like he said an awful lot, Kendal couldn’t get his cards out quick enough. Not excusing Griffin but think Kendal has handled the situation poorly as could have just told Griffin to shut up, take halftime to calm down as Kendal does enough coaching during a game.

Even the penalty against Cator for a trip seemed very harsh as you see that nearly every week when player are stepping across to make a tackle.

It’s almost as though Kendal has a god complex.

Don't know if we'd have won with 13 on the pitch or not.
I do think Kendall is a poor ref amongst others officiating in Super League.
It is what it is and we've got what we've got.
It's gonna be difficult for many to keep enthused now that we've relatively got very little to play for, 8th, 9th, 10th?
Hope we can positively recruit for next year to give us something to look forward too.

Typical comments of a loser

What iIdidn't understand in the Fash incident is the putting on report. If 3 officials on the pitch and a video referee can't decide what to do, then penalty, get on with it.. I'm okay with that, but what purpose is putting the incident on report. It's not as if the disciplinary will miss it. They find incidents to look at that nobody ever sees during the game and puts their own unique interpretation on matters.

Welcome back, did you enjoy your holiday ?

Maybe in your winterwonderland he has stolen it from Tuimavave

Showed today for me why Carlos isn’t the right choice has captain, a good captain would question the referees decisions at times even to slow play down like a few do in SL and might even sway a few decisions out way . Effort today , can’t question and without Clifford we couldn’t do much more . Griffin should know better , especially at his age plus he’s got previous, so looks like he can’t change , no matter how frustrated you are . Even though mcintosh was quiet today , I think he comes in for way to much unfair criticism from some , not as bad as people make out , just been lacking confidence .

I would agree that Carlos isnt the perfect captain but there are no obvious candidates in the squad, we really need to sign a vocal, hard as nails experienced forward who can lead us next year. That said the dressing room seems the best it has been in years so off the field things seem good