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Quote: Mrs Barista "For every Holbrook there's a ragbag of new Messiahs who achieve nothing - Furner, Stone, Cunningham, Sheens, whatever, blah, blah, blah. If the silver bullet coach were such a simple option to solve all ills AP would be all over it.'"


This is definitely one of the problems with bringing in a new coach. Sometimes better the devil you know. When you're not scrapping to avoid relegation or similar it's a tough decision. I just think the club need taking to the next level now and I'm not sure Radders can do this.

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Quote: giddyupoldfella "Do match threads go on this long when
We win?'"

People tend to be working on those days.

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Quote: Darkside Dave "This is definitely one of the problems with bringing in a new coach. Sometimes better the devil you know. When you're not scrapping to avoid relegation or similar it's a tough decision. I just think the club need taking to the next level now and I'm not sure Radders can do this.'"
2016, won the cup, a game from winning the league leaders shield and minutes away from the grand final, beaten by the eventual winners

2017, won the cup, 3rd in the table, and minutes from the grand final, beaten by the eventual winners.

2018, going along OK, then hit an injury crises, season over.

2019, In the Cup semi final, 3rd in the table. Still on course for the double.

We're competing at the very highest level we possibly can under Radford.

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Quote: Darkside Dave "This is definitely one of the problems with bringing in a new coach. Sometimes better the devil you know. When you're not scrapping to avoid relegation or similar it's a tough decision. I just think the club need taking to the next level now and I'm not sure Radders can do this.'"

True. Not loads of coaches in SL who've won more than Radford at their current clubs either. You'd have to have someone with a very good track record to justify the risk. When you've been in and around the top 4 (broadly) for 4 seasons and made the cup semis in 3 of them, and other teams can afford marquee players and bigger backroom staff, there would be a risk of going the other way, arguably.

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Quote: giddyupoldfella "2016, won the cup, a game from winning the league leaders shield and minutes away from the grand final, beaten by the eventual winners

2017, won the cup, 3rd in the table, and minutes from the grand final, beaten by the eventual winners.

2018, going along OK, then hit an injury crises, season over.

2019, In the Cup semi final, 3rd in the table. Still on course for the double.

We're competing at the very highest level we possibly can under Radford.'"


As I've previously stated I'm happy to be proven wrong, in fact I'd be delighted but we haven't improved since 2016 & 2017 and our performances are very erratic. If we don't pick up the cup or make the Grand Final things start to look a little different. It's then a little late in the day to start making changes with the pre-season weeks away and a squad in place.

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Quote: Darkside Dave "As I've previously stated I'm happy to be proven wrong, in fact I'd be delighted but we haven't improved since 2016 & 2017 and our performances are very erratic. If we don't pick up the cup or make the Grand Final things start to look a little different. It's then a little late in the day to start making changes with the pre-season weeks away and a squad in place.'"
Maybe other teams have improved?

There's 11 other clubs that all want to be competing for the trophies too, just be happy that under our current coach's regime, we're doing it on a regular basis. We have no given right to be doing so.

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Success means pay rises for players, Players like Sneyd, Connor etc will probably be on double what they signed for, this means it's harder to recruit and other teams can offer more etc.

That's why over the last 5 years no team has been consistent, look at Leeds, Warrington and Wigan, all had poor seasons after good ones, this is what happens in a salary capped sport.

Ouf of the last four seasons including this one, we have had one bad season, even then, most was down injuries and even then unlike other teams we avoided them middle 8's.

I think we are going in the right direction with recruitment fifa next season, which should see us improve and challenge again

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Quote: Darkside Dave "As I've previously stated I'm happy to be proven wrong, in fact I'd be delighted but we haven't improved since 2016 & 2017 and our performances are very erratic. If we don't pick up the cup or make the Grand Final things start to look a little different. It's then a little late in the day to start making changes with the pre-season weeks away and a squad in place.'"

The club isn't as well resourced as the perennial SL winners, who either have benefactors, bigger fanbases, or own their own grounds. If we could have a list of clubs consistently delivering more than we do in the way of trophies/league position who are self-funded in rented stadia that would be a useful template. As a guide you would say we are doing OK working to what we have. The differential we do have in our favour is relatively strong attendances and incremental merchandise sales through cup progress lately. AP has talked about trying to get investment in but it's difficult. The club has relatively fixed budgets unless more income can be raised, so you'd need to divert cash from the playing squad to upweight the coaching side. Whether you'd get a better return, bearing in mind the finances available to the clubs mentioned, is not certain.

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I know my wishes are a bit eutopian but as a club and a fan base we are hungry for sucess. Whenever we have won a cup in the past we have failed to kick on. I just hope it doesn't happen again. All of the above are solid views I can't argue with. The inconsistency is the main cause of doubt and we have been tagged by the whole competition as the Jekyll & Hyde club. I just don't want the wheels to fall off. I'm desperate for us to lift the Super League title.

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Got another semi-final to go and attend shortly.
#we'veneverhaditsof00ingood

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Quote: WIZEB "Got another semi-final to go and attend shortly.
#we'veneverhaditsof00ingood'"
We're not alone this season with inconsistency,. But of the inconsistent teams, we're doing the best to ride that wave.

Putting out a team with a consistant 17 will help with consistency, which will help with confidence, which will help results.

This post wasn't supposed to be a quote to your post, but the one above yours.

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We lost our first 2 games, we've lost our last 2 games and we've apparently been the most inconsistent team in between. Yet we're in a better position than 9 of the other 11 clubs in the league.

There must be somethings we're doing right?

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Quote: Darkside Dave "I know my wishes are a bit eutopian but as a club and a fan base we are hungry for sucess. Whenever we have won a cup in the past we have failed to kick on. I just hope it doesn't happen again. All of the above are solid views I can't argue with. The inconsistency is the main cause of doubt and we have been tagged by the whole competition as the Jekyll & Hyde club. I just don't want the wheels to fall off. I'm desperate for us to lift the Super League title.'"

They are the wishes of all 12 clubs and fanbases. I suspect there's a bit of "what we have we hold" in that the last 4 seasons have been amongst our best in a generation, and in the context of a Grand Final success glass ceiling we have more to lose than win. At least we have a Jekyll. Without it we'd be mired in the crappy relegation dogfight. icon_lol.gif

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we will never finish top of the league until we make the kc some sort of fortress.

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Quote: fosdyke99 "we will never finish top of the league until we make the kc some sort of fortress.'"
The beauty of it is, you don't need to finish top of the league to win the grand prize, you just need to still be standing in the final game of the season.

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