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| Quote: Jimmy Carr "This would be my option.
What I cannot get my head round is how Wigan and Leeds in particular are able to play such expansive rugby, because I don't believe that comes from Wane or McDermott?
If that is the case, then is has to come from either an 'attacking coach' or the senior players?
Take Leeds, who dictates the play on the pitch - Sinfield all day long for me (in recent years), I wouldn't be surprised if he is directly involved in training in terms of attacking ideas and plays?
So if we haven't got an attacking coach, then surely someone like Pryce could bring a lot to the table in terms of ideas and suggestions? Is he not doing this? Or is he not being allowed too by LR? (my way or the highway).
Cannot expect a lump like Lee Radford to suddenly come up with a master attacking playbook? He wasn't that type of player. The good things FC do are all typical of LR, but good coaches have more in the locker than just getting the team to work hard, they are students of the game, they adapt to change, not afraid to try new things, and listen to advice.
I see none of this at FC.
If you watch all the top teams, particularly when attacking the near the line, the scrum half or stand off is at first or second receiver at the play of the ball EVERY time, demanding the ball, directing the team, calling the shots, making the decisions and ultimately calling the plays?
I don't see that here, most of the time its a final front or second row carry and charge.
So either the players are incapable (not good enough) or being told not too and dare not suggest different?
I think Sneyd and Pryce need more freedom to express themselves and Pryce in particular should be advising LR - maybe his and we are still turd!!
Rant over sorry!'"
Nonetheless.... a GOOD rant.
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| Quote: WormInHand "I honestly think it's becoming a cost issue - I think Pearson's reaching the bottom of his purse.
Heard a rumour last night that Mally Walker has sold Victoria Plumb. The obvious jump from this to Hull FC was also mooted. Perhaps this is why we appear to be seeing no action from Adam despite the pressure to do so?'"
He's sold 49% of it, he doesn't want to be any part in the clubs future, shame really.
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| Quote: easthull fc fan "He's sold 49% of it, he doesn't want to be any part in the clubs future, shame really.'"
Would he want to plumb new depths?
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| Quote: weaver93 "Wigan,Saints Warrington, Huddersfield all employ an attack coach, but we dont..it shows as our attack is so dire.
Available proven coaches... Elliott,Potter,B Smith,or Griffin (ideally Powell or T Smith but wont happen.)'"
Griffin would be my choice .
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| Quote: easthull fc fan "So why didn't he? Honestly ask yourself if AP did what he thought was right for the club? He's no idiot he's a business man & he openly says he loves our club, so I will support what he does for them, not what so called fans think they know how to run a club, & throw out whoever is to blame because over the last year we haven't been called the entertainers.'"
pearson knows knack all about RL and if he were that great a businessman he'd never have bought our club.
I don;t know why he chose radford. I suspect radford was in his ear about gentle and his faults and that made him prime candidate to replace hi. What due diligence did pearson do before appointing him? Who else did he ask for an opinion? Who else did he interview for the position? I'd suspect none of them were done which is why we're in the mess we are.
I can understand your loyalty to your cuz but he isn't experienced enough to be head coach of any SL side
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| My loyalty is with my club, & you are just assuming LR played a part in gentles departure & AP didn't try to employ any other head coach, trouble is you don't know any facts, so you post on here things you think happened, how do you know AP knows nothing about RL? I would say he knows more then us after all he runs a club, we don't.
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| Quote: easthull fc fan "how do you know AP knows nothing about RL? I would say he knows more then us after all he runs a club, we don't.'"
I would say that his actions and public pronouncements strongly indicate otherwise.
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| Quote: Kosh "I would say that his actions and public pronouncements strongly indicate otherwise.'"
You would say this but others wouldn't, & just because we are fans of the club, what do we know? I personally will stick with him & not the odd poster on here who judge people who they know nothing about or the resources & hard work they are putting in, after all this board has no bearings on the clubs decisions or future.
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| Quote: easthull fc fan "My loyalty is with my club, & you are just assuming LR played a part in gentles departure & AP didn't try to employ any other head coach, trouble is you don't know any facts, so you post on here things you think happened, how do you know AP knows nothing about RL? I would say he knows more then us after all he runs a club, we don't.'"
I would say anyone who appointed lee radford as head coach of a SL side knows knack all about RL
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "I would say anyone who appointed lee radford as head coach of a SL side knows knack all about RL'"
Yeah you've said before...several times.
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| Quote: easthull fc fan "My loyalty is with my club, & you are just assuming LR played a part in gentles departure & AP didn't try to employ any other head coach, trouble is you don't know any facts, so you post on here things you think happened, how do you know AP knows nothing about RL? I would say he knows more then us after all he runs a club, we don't.'"
I also believe Radford's whisperings convinced Pearson that Gentle had lost the dressing room after he, Radford, played his part in that loss. It was then but a small step to convince Pearson that his trusty advisor - who had, of course, been proven right - was the natural successor. He, Radford, held the hearts and minds of the players.
But that is my speculation only, based purely on my reading of the unfolding events. I am merely looking in, and making deductions accordingly.
But you obviously do know more having direct connection to Radford. So what did go on with relation to Gentle? Why did Pearson become disillusioned with him? What part, if any, did Radford play?
I would be grateful if you would answer as this episode in our history has troubled me greatly.
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| The question you have to ask yourself is . Is Lee radford one of the top 12 Rugby League coaches in England .Because that is the position he holds . We are a top 12 team [ at the moment ] and is our coach and coaching set up a top 12 set up . 2 questions really but every one gets the drift
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| Quote: easthull fc fan "My loyalty is with my club, & you are just assuming LR played a part in gentles departure & AP didn't try to employ any other head coach, trouble is you don't know any facts, so you post on here things you think happened, how do you know AP knows nothing about RL? I would say he knows more then us after all he runs a club, we don't.'"
I would say your loyalty is more with LR than with the club, admirable though it is, in the opinion of many on here its totally misplaced. And your statement that AP knows more about RL than people on here is just plain silly. By his own admission he's still learning and by the state of the club he's still got an awful lot to learn.
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| Quote: Hessle Roader "I would say your loyalty is more with LR than with the club, admirable though it is, in the opinion of many on here its totally misplaced. And your statement that AP knows more about RL than people on here is just plain silly. By his own admission he's still learning and by the state of the club he's still got an awful lot to learn.'"
So without sounding disrespectful to you, as you have been a fan for ex amount of years, would we know how to run the day to day running of the club? As we are quick to knock him for trying, & what state is the club in other then not playing how we would like them to, this could change over night ( I'm not saying it will) but we play in a very good albeit big stadium, youth structure is top of the pile with years to come of progression, we are in a decent place to make the 8 in what is the closest league for a long time, my loyalty is with whoever AP employs as I'm a fan of the whole club, & would never want to see us hammered or be in a place for possible relegation just to see someone sacked, & be able to say I've told you so, this to me would be gloating, as I've said before if we are then we have to look elsewhere for coaching/ playing staff, but we are not in that predicament yet are we?
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| Quote: easthull fc fan "So without sounding disrespectful to you, as you have been a fan for ex amount of years, would we know how to run the day to day running of the club? As we are quick to knock him for trying, & what state is the club in other then not playing how we would like them to, this could change over night ( I'm not saying it will) but we play in a very good albeit big stadium, youth structure is top of the pile with years to come of progression, we are in a decent place to make the 8 in what is the closest league for a long time, my loyalty is with whoever AP employs as I'm a fan of the whole club, & would never want to see us hammered or be in a place for possible relegation just to see someone sacked, & be able to say I've told you so, this to me would be gloating, as I've said before if we are then we have to look elsewhere for coaching/ playing staff, but we are not in that predicament yet are we?'"
Nowhere in your statement does it say that AP knows anything about Rugby League. At no point have I said that he is not a successful businessman but I do not believe that in the short time he has been with the club he has learned as much about the game as many who sit in the stands each match. I, personally, have been following the club since the late 1940's so, without boasting, I would say I have a much greater knowledge of the game than Adam, and I have no doubt that the majority of the fans could make the same claims. I'm not having a dig at Adam because I believe that he is the best thing that has happened to the club in recent years, but I do believe he has been badly advised and we, as fans, are having to suffer the consequences.
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