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Quote: Mrs Barista "I've already said I'm really pleased the council are doing their job. This is the third time I think.

Just to clarify your earlier comment, how many millions did Adam Pearson borrow against the SMC? The Guardian link posted referenced Bartlett.'"

You aare right, i was confusing the sale of the SMC with loans, regardless of who it was it still was moved onto the SMC accounts as a debt to the Allams, It's interesting that you keep saying you are pleased the council are taking action yet no apology for the insults towards me for trying to help these groups, not only as a councillor (not up for election for 3 years) but as a director of the Humber Sports Forum (unpaid volunteer), I think you are confusing passion with your need to portray yourself as someone with a Jordan complex who needs nay must be heared at all cost, and as such believes that no one could possibly do anything out of public spirit.

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It appears a lot of Hull FC fans are grateful for the help and information you keep them aware of Phil, meanwhile Mrs Barista will be rallying her handful of playground bullies to try and intimidate those who do not support HER views. You will know when the argument is won.....cockle. icon_biggrin.gif

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Its a good job we are not Blackpool fans, some on here would be tens of thousands worse off, and forced to publically grovell to the owner

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Quote: Structured "It appears a lot of Hull FC fans are grateful for the help and information you keep them aware of Phil, meanwhile Mrs Barista will be rallying her handful of playground bullies to try and intimidate those who do not support HER views. You will know when the argument is won.....cockle.
Please feel free to return when you have something of interest to say. I'm sure Phil is capable of fighting his own battles and doesn't need the likes of you to do it for him.

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Quote: Structured "It appears a lot of Hull FC fans are grateful for the help and information you keep them aware of Phil, meanwhile Mrs Barista will be rallying her handful of playground bullies to try and intimidate those who do not support HER views. You will know when the argument is won.....cockle.
Aren't you banned, Zod?

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Quote: phil webbo "You aare right, i was confusing the sale of the SMC with loans, regardless of who it was it still was moved onto the SMC accounts as a debt to the Allams, It's interesting that you keep saying you are pleased the council are taking action yet no apology for the insults towards me for trying to help these groups, not only as a councillor (not up for election for 3 years) but as a director of the Humber Sports Forum (unpaid volunteer), I think you are confusing passion with your need to portray yourself as someone with a Jordan complex who needs nay must be heared at all cost, and as such believes that no one could possibly do anything out of public spirit.'"


I apologise that I said the council appeared to be doing nothing when they were doing something. A letter has been sent, that's great. Clearly the council's decision not to gift him the stadium has been 100% vindicated. We all hope the situation can be resolved.

It's a big statement to say "Adam borrowed Millions against the SMC" when he apparently didn't. Apologies can be given as well as demanded.

I'm not sure what a Jordan complex is, but you make a sweeping statement that "I don't believe anyone could do anything out of public spirit". I've been a school governor, worked for charities and done plenty of volunteering. Cheers.

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I googled 'A Jordan Complex' and got the floor plan of a hospital in Amman!

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Quote: The Dentist Wilf "I googled 'A Jordan Complex' and got the floor plan of a hospital in Amman!'"

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Quote: phil webbo "You aare right, i was confusing the sale of the SMC with loans, regardless of who it was it still was moved onto the SMC accounts as a debt to the Allams, It's interesting that you keep saying you are pleased the council are taking action yet no apology for the insults towards me for trying to help these groups, not only as a councillor (not up for election for 3 years) but as a director of the Humber Sports Forum (unpaid volunteer), I think you are confusing passion with your need to portray yourself as someone with a Jordan complex who needs nay must be heared at all cost, and as such believes that no one could possibly do anything out of public spirit.'"

I wouldnt worry about her - shes been getting on a lot of peoples t1ts recently with her none stop attempts at point scoring. Comes accross as quite a sad individual if im honest

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Quote: Mrs Barista "I apologise that I said the council appeared to be doing nothing when they were doing something. A letter has been sent, that's great. Clearly the council's decision not to gift him the stadium has been 100% vindicated. We all hope the situation can be resolved.

It's a big statement to say "Adam borrowed Millions against the SMC" when he apparently didn't. Apologies can be given as well as demanded.

I'm not sure what a Jordan complex is, but you make a sweeping statement that "I don't believe anyone could do anything out of public spirit". I've been a school governor, worked for charities and done plenty of volunteering. Cheers.'"

So no apology for the insults, just more me me me
I made it clear that I made a mistake when I said borrowed, i meant the £3m he got from the sale, but you appear to try make hay even when I said I made a mistake, the Jordan remark was aimed at your abillity to try to be the of attention while shouting me me me, and it stands that you could't believe anyone could do something public spirited, why else would you have made the comments about me as you did.

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Quote: phil webbo "So no apology for the insults, just more me me me
I made it clear that I made a mistake when I said borrowed, i meant the £3m he got from the sale, but you appear to try make hay even when I said I made a mistake, the Jordan remark was aimed at your abillity to try to be the Centre of attention while shouting me me me, and it stands that you could't believe anyone could do something public spirited, why else would you have made the comments about me as you did.'"
To be fair, you didn't mean the £3m he got for the sale, you were referring to the mortgage loans which were on the SMC accounts, attributed to Bartlett, not AP
What AP got for selling a company he owned is hardly relevant when we're debating Mr Allam's handling of the SMC.

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Quote: ccs "To be fair, you didn't mean the £3m he got for the sale, you were referring to the mortgage loans which were on the SMC accounts, attributed to Bartlett, not AP
What AP got for selling a company he owned is hardly relevant when we're debating Mr Allam's handling of the SMC.'"

Correct, basic and important.

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Quote: phil webbo "So no apology for the insults, just more me me me
I made it clear that I made a mistake when I said borrowed, i meant the £3m he got from the sale, but you appear to try make hay even when I said I made a mistake, the Jordan remark was aimed at your abillity to try to be the Centre of attention while shouting me me me, and it stands that you could't believe anyone could do something public spirited, why else would you have made the comments about me as you did.'"

I'm sorry I insulted you.

But here's the sequence of events.

1) Allam continues to ride roughshod for weeks over the Airco tenants. The council action appears to be limited to trying to find them homes and helping the Allams' application with the FA.

2) The Allams then breach their lease agreement. In this instance it's the council's job and responsibility to act, right? Basic compliance enforcement, nothing more.

3) You post on here that the council are "not taking this lying down", "waving a white flag" "padlocks on gates"etc.

4) I interpret 3 as overly emotive rhetoric in the context of both point 2 and the absence at that point of any action.

5) The council write a letter to the Allams about considering legal action. I post several times that I'm really pleased about this, in the context of 2.

6) You have several personal goes at me and accuse Adam Pearson of "raising millions against the SMC"

7) You repeatedly talk about your personal contribution to sport in Hull. Not sure whether the Jordan reference fits better here.

That's it really. We're going round in circles now. To clarify for the fifth time. I'm glad the Council is doing its job. The reality here is that the Allams have been eroding our tenancy status for several years. Let's hope you can expedite matters to the point of conclusion rather than compromise that means the war rather than the battle is won. I wish you luck, they appear to have little appetite for reasoned argument, consistency or compliance. icon_kiss.gif

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Quote: Sebasteeno "I wouldnt worry about her - shes been getting on a lot of peoples t1ts recently with her none stop attempts at point scoring. Comes accross as quite a sad individual if im honest'"

She's an accountant, it's in their DNA

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Quote: ccs "To be fair, you didn't mean the £3m he got for the sale, you were referring to the mortgage loans which were on the SMC accounts, attributed to Bartlett, not AP
What AP got for selling a company he owned is hardly relevant when we're debating Mr Allam's handling of the SMC.'"

It was relevant , I accept that I made a mistake but the point remains that whoever it was who took out the loans which I accept again was Russell Bartlet it has been put as a debt on the SMC accounts, which has left any realistic chance of the council taking up the Allams £1 offer for the SMC at zero, had this not been the case and the council had took back the SMC this would not be happening, so relevant? absolutely.

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