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| Quote: knockersbumpMKII "Did we?
Sa (though from what I've seen that's debatable) Sneyd, Ellis and Watts were the only ones not playing that should have been in the starting/strongest 17 by rights.
Saints had 2 teenagers making debut, one of them 17.
They had missing; Burns, Walsh, Lomax, Wilkin, Vea and Percival, possibly you could include Arm waver (Wellens) as he usually gets a bench spot.
If you put the two strongest teams out there, Saints would win every single time.
We won but let's not kid ourselves, aside from the odd flashes of individual excellence we are disorganised in attack at best, luckily for us we have had a pretty good defence so far this year (& well done to the team/coach for that). Leeds/KR aside we've kept things tight but as mentioned upthread we aren't winning the tight games more than we are losing and just don't look capable of scoring against well organised defences that often unless a bit of luck comes our way. Sure 'lucky' tries apply to everyone but we are poor in attack compared to most other clubs.
That said if we win every game until the end of the season then being poop in attack, relying on individual brilliance, 'lucky' tries & a good defence who am I to criticise?
It's telling that although you credit the team/coach on the decent defence you put it down to luck,and when we score against good sides it's also down to luck.
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| Quote: Dave K. " It would really benefit Radford if he brought someone in to help him keep his job. There must be plenty of people that would come here from England or the NRL who could improve our attack..'"
could not agree with your comments more
The problem is if you have a despot in charge that guards everything so steadfastly as it seems that situation will not even be a passing thought, because LR would see that as an admission of failure not and admission of all help is welcome help as it should be, any organization or business worth its weight in salt should always be looking for the "next big thing" who can pop up and help its admin, or streamline its output but lee simply is not the transparent type is he, he hides his cards carefully so we can forget additional help , I hope i am wrong but so far we have had no suggestion that anyone is even being considered apart from rumour..
I would love to get Cooke or similar on the team and cream his knowledge and experience but it simply isnt going to happen ...
150 years of history celebrations looking decidedly average
we lack creativity and that is sad given the players we have in the squad, you know its bad when Yeaman is noted as a ball player ha ha
Only kidding of course but we do need someone to step up and start pushing us around the pitch again ala Hudds first game but we just seem to be a team living on apathy and that old FC "let someone else do it" attitude again
we have class all over the team but no glue to pull that fabric together , were 1 yard away from being a really good side,
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| Quote: shauney "
And why oh why (like yesterday) do we persevere with a chip on the last tackle to what looks like the best catcher on the field? The one who also has a great step and makes yards and yards on their return?'"
We did that against Rovers time and again. A stupid chip over, straight to Manky-tomato or Kelly. Never worked once.
Rankin might be a good fullback, but he's a dreadful halfback. I've said it before, but if he's got one eye on going home, I see no point in him being part of future plans. I'd start putting HTW or Reece Dean on the fast-track.
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| Quote: Diablo1967 "
i know what you mean but just because he is going we cant dismiss the fact he is a super player in broken play and we need all the speed we can muster right now
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| So, we keep him in until he goes, at the expense of a young, keen halfback who actually is playing in that position every week?
When Rankin then leaves, we suddenly realise, "Oh, fsck! We haven't got anyone ready!"
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| Quote: Diablo1967 "So, we keep him in until he goes, at the expense of a young, keen halfback who actually is playing in that position every week?
When Rankin then leaves, we suddenly realise, "Oh, fsck! We haven't got anyone ready!"'"
No of course not clearly i am not saying that but surely you can see that whilst he is here is a valid part of the current squad, and very much putting his hand up to play, whilst he is in the squad, at the club and taking up valid cap space does that not qualify him to actually play ???
and may i say play to a high standard presently
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| Quote: FCFALERNA "could not agree with your comments more
The problem is if you have a despot in charge that guards everything so steadfastly as it seems that situation will not even be a passing thought, because LR would see that as an admission of failure not and admission of all help is welcome help as it should be, any organization or business worth its weight in salt should always be looking for the "next big thing" who can pop up and help its admin, or streamline its output but lee simply is not the transparent type is he, he hides his cards carefully so we can forget additional help , I hope i am wrong but so far we have had no suggestion that anyone is even being considered apart from rumour..
I would love to get Cooke or similar on the team and cream his knowledge and experience but it simply isnt going to happen ...
150 years of history celebrations looking decidedly average
we lack creativity and that is sad given the players we have in the squad, you know its bad when Yeaman is noted as a ball player ha ha
Only kidding of course but we do need someone to step up and start pushing us around the pitch again ala Hudds first game but we just seem to be a team living on apathy and that old FC "let someone else do it" attitude again
we have class all over the team but no glue to pull that fabric together , were 1 yard away from being a really good side,'"
Back in the UK again so soon?
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| Quote: Kosh "Back in the UK again so soon?'"
No actually sat on my terrace overlooking Stroboli enjoying the sun and having lunch as we speak, trying to decide between us whether to go to the beach or just jump in the pool to be honest??
and lee radford thinks he has problems eh ?? ha ha ha
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| Quote: FCFALERNA "could not agree with your comments more
The problem is if you have a despot in charge that guards everything so steadfastly as it seems that situation will not even be a passing thought, because LR would see that as an admission of failure not and admission of all help is welcome help as it should be, any organization or business worth its weight in salt should always be looking for the "next big thing" who can pop up and help its admin, or streamline its output but lee simply is not the transparent type is he, he hides his cards carefully so we can forget additional help , I hope i am wrong but so far we have had no suggestion that anyone is even being considered apart from rumour..
I would love to get Cooke or similar on the team and cream his knowledge and experience but it simply isnt going to happen ...
150 years of history celebrations looking decidedly average
we lack creativity and that is sad given the players we have in the squad, you know its bad when Yeaman is noted as a ball player ha ha
Only kidding of course but we do need someone to step up and start pushing us around the pitch again ala Hudds first game but we just seem to be a team living on apathy and that old FC "let someone else do it" attitude again
we have class all over the team but no glue to pull that fabric together , were 1 yard away from being a really good side,'"
I cant believe people would want cooke back,is it because he is doing such a good job with donny,averaging 12 pts a game,played 9 lost 9 ?Sounds like just what we need,apart from what he did to us.
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| Quote: Drew peacock "I cant believe people would want cooke back,is it because he is doing such a good job with donny ?'"
I would have Schofield here if i thought he could help mate
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| Quote: dayvoz "It's telling that although you credit the team/coach on the decent defence you put it down to luck,and when we score against good sides it's also down to luck.'"
That's not what I said, re-read EXACTLY what I said, when I used the word 'luckily' that isn't the same as 'lucky', if you can't differentiate between them well that isn't my fault is it but I'll explain it ok?
How about I use the words 'fortunately for us' we have a pretty good defence, or 'good job' we have a pretty good defence, in the context of what I said the word 'luckily' represents 'where it not for', that I added a (genuine) congratulatory note to re-inforce that made it pretty obvious what was being said, you chose not to see it that way or just didn't understand.
Additionally I didn't say it was ALL down to luck scoring against decent sides as you are infering, please, re-read that aspect of my post again. You will note I said "just don't look capable of scoring against well organised defences that often unless a bit of luck comes our way.
Again, read the sentence, analyse what it ACTUALLY says, take the hints from the words in bold, if you need me to explain it in full just ask and I will do so but what I said is the actuality of what has happened. We have the second lowest scoring tally in the league [ijust[/i ahead of Wakefield, we have the 2nd lowest tally against us. I'd say that in itself is a good indicator of what I said if nothing else.
If you want me to give you some examples of where our tries involved 'a bit of luck' but not wholly & when we scored off the back of some individual brilliance or good team work I'll run through them but if you also read my post about Lineham's tries against Widnes I pointed out to another FC forummer that tried to say I'd said one thing and not what I actually did that I was agreeing with the commentators on SKY that said it took skill/knowhow and guts for him to get them.
I can objectively look at what we as a team are doing, it would seem you cannot do the same as many others on here fail to do so also.
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| Quote: FCFALERNA "could not agree with your comments more
The problem is if you have a despot in charge that guards everything so steadfastly as it seems that situation will not even be a passing thought, because LR would see that as an admission of failure not and admission of all help is welcome help as it should be, any organization or business worth its weight in salt should always be looking for the "next big thing" who can pop up and help its admin, or streamline its output but lee simply is not the transparent type is he, he hides his cards carefully so we can forget additional help , I hope i am wrong but so far we have had no suggestion that anyone is even being considered apart from rumour..
I would love to get Cooke or similar on the team and cream his knowledge and experience but it simply isnt going to happen ...
150 years of history celebrations looking decidedly average
we lack creativity and that is sad given the players we have in the squad, you know its bad when Yeaman is noted as a ball player ha ha
Only kidding of course but we do need someone to step up and start pushing us around the pitch again ala Hudds first game but we just seem to be a team living on apathy and that old FC "let someone else do it" attitude again
we have class all over the team but no glue to pull that fabric together , were 1 yard away from being a really good side,'"
Yes let's bring in a coach(Cooke) who has guided the current team he is coaching to a grand total of 0 wins from 9,FFS.
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| Quote: FCFALERNA "No actually sat on my terrace overlooking Stroboli enjoying the sun and having lunch as we speak, trying to decide between us whether to go to the beach or just jump in the pool to be honest??'"
You must have a very long cable on your router.
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| On Cooke, remember this isn't about him being head coach, but attacking coach, our attack was the best in years when he played at halfback for us. I'm not saying that he should be appointed attacking coach, but he shouldn't be judged on him being head coach at Donny (where he did a great job last year, but not this*) for a attacking coaching job.
*If you read the Donny forum, there are a few valid reason why they aren't doing aswell this year as last.
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| Quote: Dave K. "On Cooke, remember this isn't about him being head coach, but attacking coach, our attack was the best in years when he played at halfback for us. I'm not saying that he should be appointed attacking coach, but he shouldn't be judged on him being head coach at Donny (where he did a great job last year, but not this*) for a attacking coaching job.
*If you read the Donny forum, there are a few valid reason why they aren't doing aswell this year as last.'"
He's recently hung up his playing boots.
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