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Quote: *1865* "For calling out the fickle amongst us, if you think it was aimed at anyone who just couldn't go for varying reasons then you'd be mistaken. It was clearly aimed at those who change their mind week in week out and probably mostly at those throwing verbal abuse at players on social media.'"


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Now that is funny.

No fans be it on here or otherwise change their mind about him.
Fans last week were merely voicing their displeasure over our form and current head coach during another abject performance that we've seen too many during his tenure.
A win over saints isn't going to have those same fans this week saying, "You know what over the last eighteen months I've misjudged that Lee Radford. He is a good coach and I'd like him to stay but lose again next week and I'll be calling for his head again."

Sorry that doesn't suit your agenda or the tosh you post at times.
There is no doubting his passion for the club but if things don't change or progress as he hopes his reputation at this club as player or coach will be severely tarnished.
He needs to realise it's not the size of the defeat but rather the manner that has angered many fans and led to this unfortunate debate and situation over his coaching ability and questioning of his credentials as our head coach.
I certainly didn't start out last season with displeasure over his appointment quite the opposite but he's ground my patience and passion right down.

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Anyone wonder the problem with our attack... read this.

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Quote: Bombed Out "I certainly didn't start out last season with displeasure over his appointment quite the opposite but he's ground my patience and passion right down.'"

Edited: Due to misreading the post.

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Quote: *1865* "



Surely that's a full season plus 9 games. Don't try and defend the indefensible. I would love him to succeed but so far there doesn't seem much chance of that.

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Quote: Hessle Roader "Surely that's a full season plus 9 games. Don't try and defend the indefensible. I would love him to succeed but so far there doesn't seem much chance of that.'"

Indeed it is, I do apologise.

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Lets face it to be happier with the situation, to be happier with the coach and the team, 99.9% of fans (be they fickle or not) will need to see a win against Widnes, and from there onwards we need to see a decent result and performance against Sheffield, to then thump Wakey, result at home to Hudds , then at the very least decent showings against Salford, Wire and saints again
THEN if we play at the magic weekend against HKR with passion and a desire to say sorry to the fans by giving rovers a shoeing then and only then i think the last few months will be forgotten
and all the above would be a massive confidence booster for us all i am sure..
Lets be fair we all know were no where near the finished article and in the midst of a building plan but with the team we already have we should be better than this...
Pre season I sat reading about this dynamic squad with so much cover in all areas, yet Ellis twists his sock and were running around like headless chickens..where is this squad we were all drip fed about

You know we have no right to win against anyone these days and thats the way we want SL to be so that we know week in week out we have to be at the gate ready to go and no team is a given win ,

However as fans we have a right to expect
1, a game plan
2, some sense and sensibility on the park
3,humility from the coach when it goes tits up
4m when it continues to go tits up the owner opens the door for the coach on his way out ...

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eastul105 wrote lets be fair Mickey Paea is too good for us.:



Quote: FCFALERNA "Lets face it to be happier with the situation, to be happier with the coach and the team, 99.9% of fans (be they fickle or not) will need to see a win against Widnes, and from there onwards we need to see a decent result and performance against Sheffield, to then thump Wakey, result at home to Hudds , then at the very least decent showings against Salford, Wire and saints again
THEN if we play at the magic weekend against HKR with passion and a desire to say sorry to the fans by giving rovers a shoeing then and only then i think the last few months will be forgotten
and all the above would be a massive confidence booster for us all i am sure..
Lets be fair we all know were no where near the finished article and in the midst of a building plan but with the team we already have we should be better than this...
Pre season I sat reading about this dynamic squad with so much cover in all areas, yet Ellis twists his sock and were running around like headless chickens..where is this squad we were all drip fed about

You know we have no right to win against anyone these days and thats the way we want SL to be so that we know week in week out we have to be at the gate ready to go and no team is a given win ,

However as fans we have a right to expect
1, a game plan
2, some sense and sensibility on the park
3,humility from the coach when it goes tits up
4m when it continues to go tits up the owner opens the door for the coach on his way out ...'"

Have you just stated that no team is a given win but we should be thumping Wakey.

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Quote: dayvoz "Have you just stated that no team is a given win but we should be thumping Wakey.'"

Given current situations in SL I was stating that if they are getting week in week out a hiding more often than not, if we are making a statement of intent then we as well should hand them a thumping...
just for you i shall explain... ok
If we struggle against Wakey or even get beaten then that also is an indication of where we are...Need pictures??

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eastul105 wrote lets be fair Mickey Paea is too good for us.:



Quote: FCFALERNA "Given current situations in SL I was stating that if they are getting week in week out a hiding more often than not, if we are making a statement of intent then we as well should hand them a thumping...
just for you i shall explain... ok
If we struggle against Wakey or even get beaten then that also is an indication of where we are...Need pictures??'"

I get the picture we have no right to beat anyone but only 'thumping' the team 1 place below us is suffice,Wakey on their day are ok,ask Cas and rovers.

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Quote: FCFALERNA "Lets face it to be happier with the situation, to be happier with the coach and the team, 99.9% of fans (be they fickle or not) will need to see a win against Widnes, and from there onwards we need to see a decent result and performance against Sheffield, to then thump Wakey, result at home to Hudds , then at the very least decent showings against Salford, Wire and saints again
THEN if we play at the magic weekend against HKR with passion and a desire to say sorry to the fans by giving rovers a shoeing then and only then i think the last few months will be forgotten
and all the above would be a massive confidence booster for us all i am sure..
Lets be fair we all know were no where near the finished article and in the midst of a building plan but with the team we already have we should be better than this...
Pre season I sat reading about this dynamic squad with so much cover in all areas, yet Ellis twists his sock and were running around like headless chickens..where is this squad we were all drip fed about

You know we have no right to win against anyone these days and thats the way we want SL to be so that we know week in week out we have to be at the gate ready to go and no team is a given win ,

However as fans we have a right to expect
1, a game plan
2, some sense and sensibility on the park
3,humility from the coach when it goes tits up
4m when it continues to go tits up the owner opens the door for the coach on his way out ...'"

Decent post, think we've done well in defence without Ellis tbf. Problem has been our attack, which would be helped massively if we had a hooker who had a rugby brain and made the right decision more often than not. Put Roby in our team, or even a Lunt and we'd be instantly transformed going forward imo.
Yesterday has to be a turning point, if we don't back it up in the next few games then I can't see us going anywhere, ever, under Radford. If we win against Widnes then it will be 4 out of 10, which I saw as a minimum but we need to turn that into at least 8 from 15 for mine and then eventually 14 or 15 from 23, which would see us top 6 imo.

I love being optimistic.

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Here's a radical suggestion, why don't we all get off Radford's back (and get behind the team) until after the Widnes game?

If we win that then it may be we are making progress.

If we lose then IMO he should go then.

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Quote: Diogenes "Here's a radical suggestion, why don't we all get off Radford's back (and get behind the team) until after the Widnes game?

If we win that then it may be we are making progress.

If we lose then IMO he should go then.'"

That right there is why Radford said what he did yesterday!!!

If we win we're making progress but if we lose he should go??? Why is there no middle ground? Why so absolute?

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Quote: *1865* "That right there is why Radford said what he did yesterday!!!

If we win we're making progress but if we lose he should go??? Why is there no middle ground? Why so absolute?'"


Because he will have had his chance (a season and a half) to prove he's up to the job and failed.

Because his win record will be 13 from 37 (35%).

Because having assembled his own team he will have won 3 matches out of 10 this season (30%).

Because we will have very little chance of making the top 8 which is unacceptable.

Because we really should be beating Widnes at home (no disrespect to them) if we have any ambition.

If we lose, why should he stay????

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Is Hodgson the new Griffin, or is it all about pace?:



Quote: Diogenes "Here's a radical suggestion, why don't we all get off Radford's back (and get behind the team) until after the Widnes game?'"
Didn't last long.

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Quote: Diogenes "Here's a radical suggestion, why don't we all get off Radford's back (and get behind the team) until after the Widnes game?

If we win that then it may be we are making progress.

If we lose then IMO he should go then.'"

here is a better one, let the coach coach the team, and if they fail miserably ongoing then we change him
if he turns it around and all changes then we give him the key to the city

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