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Quote: UllFC "Half a good season and subbed off in a challenge cup final because he was so ineffective'"



But we signed him based on that whilst Rovers go out and sign Kelly and campese

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Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "Head was never a viable long term option because of his knees, but he was easily the most talented 7 we've had in the Superleague era.'"


Agreed. His kicking game off his weaker foot was as good as most others we've had. He'd have been a regular at at least SOO level if it hadn't been for his injuries.

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Quote: UllFC "Holdsworth and Sneyd have spent their time in SL at Cas and Salford who with all due respect have been in the bottom end of the table and the Championship for the last decade, neither have done it at a big club.'"


Sneyd was ripping it up at Cas in first half of last season at top end of the table. His end of year stats clearly show he is a decent player. Our lack of go forward and total reliance on our halfs to create everything seems to be major issue. We have little or nothing coming from our 9 or 13 and our 2nd rows are just workhorses. Our gameplan or playbook is so one dimensional and easy for the other team to read it is embarrassing to watch. Our complete lack of pace on the fringes doesn't help but there cannot be any excuse for our mind numbing predictability in pretty much everything we do. This can only be coming from the coach I guess as the players seem unwilling or unable to come up with anything off the cuff or show any variation to keep the other team guessing. From our kick offs to our set plays to the inside drop off pass its the same every week! Come on Lee, get it sorted or move aside as its simply not good enough.

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Quote: Bombed Out "But we signed him based on that whilst Rovers go out and sign Kelly and campese'"

We agreed a deal with campese then backed out

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How many halfbacks do we need to go through before people realise it's the more fundamental weaknesses we have that are the main problems? Any halves will never deliver to their fullest for us until we have sufficient quality and options for them to work with.

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What ever anyone thinks the trouble is this is going to have a long term effect on this club and its fortunes and this was always my fear with the present set up. Radford may well be a good coach given a bit of time, he is not going to get it no amount of papering over the cracks is going to save him or the club this time.

AP has to take on a top coach and PTQ............

Halt the decline

Turn it around #

Make some great signings for next term

and then we may just manage to salvage something from this mess, we are right in the brown stuff now and doing nothing will really bring it on big time.

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always tell when hull lose ,all the wallies come out to play.get a grip.

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2008, 2009, 2014 all over again!


absolute cr@p!!

dumb lazy players, one man rugby, predictable set plays!


suppose that is what you get when you appoint an amateur coach!

amateur players and plays!

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Quote: number 6 "2008, 2009, 2014 all over again!


absolute cr@p!!

dumb lazy players, one man rugby, predictable set plays!


suppose that is what you get when you appoint an amateur coach!

amateur players and plays!'"


I'll give you the dumb and predictable. However the effort is there IMO. The likes of Rankin, Houghton, Pryce, Mini, Paea, Thompson never gave up. Must be so frustrating for them.

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Quote: carl_spackler "How many halfbacks do we need to go through before people realise it's the more fundamental weaknesses we have that are the main problems? Any halves will never deliver to their fullest for us until we have sufficient quality and options for them to work with.'"

Exactly. Plenty on here claiming our problems were down to our lack of decent halfs but it's way deeper than that

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Quote: ditchley16 "always tell when hull lose ,all the wallies come out to play.get a grip.'"

Well there are plenty of opportunities for them to come out to play

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Quote: ditchley16 "always tell when hull lose ,all the wallies come out to play.get a grip.'"


What's your view on it then?

Satisfied?

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Quote: Mrs Barista "I'll give you the dumb and predictable. However the effort is there IMO. The likes of Rankin, Houghton, Pryce, Mini, Paea, Thompson never gave up. Must be so frustrating for them.'"

You can't knock the effort. 4 losses by 1 score or less means that the players are putting a shift in. We desperately need some fresh ideas and impetus from somewhere

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Quote: Mrs Barista "I'll give you the dumb and predictable. However the effort is there IMO. The likes of Rankin, Houghton, Pryce, Mini, Paea, Thompson never gave up. Must be so frustrating for them.'"




they may have never given up but cas' defence had no problems reading our plays!

ok we had 2 good tries in the second half from long balls cut out passes but that is we had, them 2!

substitutions was mind boggling! hadley unused for 50 minutes yet westy was nowhere near fit!


fear for our next two games! could be very embarrising

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Quote: irregularfella "Sneyd was ripping it up at Cas in first half of last season at top end of the table. His end of year stats clearly show he is a decent player. Our lack of go forward and total reliance on our halfs to create everything seems to be major issue. We have little or nothing coming from our 9 or 13 and our 2nd rows are just workhorses. Our gameplan or playbook is so one dimensional and easy for the other team to read it is embarrassing to watch. Our complete lack of pace on the fringes doesn't help but there cannot be any excuse for our mind numbing predictability in pretty much everything we do. This can only be coming from the coach I guess as the players seem unwilling or unable to come up with anything off the cuff or show any variation to keep the other team guessing. From our kick offs to our set plays to the inside drop off pass its the same every week! Come on Lee, get it sorted or move aside as its simply not good enough.'"


This is exactly it. Our lack of a quick ptb, runners, support play, etc. all make our attack so ridiculously simple to read that teams contain us relatively easily. This is where it makes it so difficult for our halves, because they then have to work even more to fashion any opportunities. I would say that in relation to the other halves in SL, they probably have to work harder and be better than the rest just to look as good, because they receive so little help from the team and (lack of) organisation around them. How often do they get to attack a scrambling defence with multiple pass options inside and outside? Instead they are left with either dropping the ball off for someone to trundle in, pulling off an inch-perfect low-percentage pass, or just kick it. All of which makes them look aimless and then highlights when they make a mistake.

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