Also worth remembering that he's only two full games into a return from a protracted absence through injury. It's bound to take time for him to get up to speed.

We may be joint 4th at present, but we have some tough games coming up and our form in the last 3 games has been less than impressive.

I have said all along that I would be happy finishing about 6th this season, so long as we are competitive come play-off time and win 1 playoff game.

I won't be happy if we limp in to the playoffs in poor form and fail to show up again, that would be no better than what we did in 2010 and 2011.

Today showed the glaring deficiencies in the squad however I believe Pearson and Gentle know exactly what we need and will address the problems.

We are still farther on than I imagined we would be and there are grounds for optimism for the rest of the season within limits, i.e. as UllFC says, a top six finish and a long awaited play off win.

Clueless in attack today but we are the worst attacking side in the top 8 so probably to be expected. Don't think I've ever seen a game where one side had so much field position and posession and failed to win before.

Have to say I think the dropped point today and the 2 we threw away last week may come back to haunt us at the end of the season. it's going to be a tough 2nd half of the season for us with 9 of our final 13 being away from home

Not sure if this has been mentioned already, but was the final penalty given correctly? I couldn't see what happened at the time, but I've just watched the replay and there is no way that Manu played at the ball. So the offside was accidental, meaning play restarts with a scrum? www.therfl.co.uk/a_guide_to_the_ ... 14_offside

Not sure if this has been mentioned already, but was the final penalty given correctly? I couldn't see what happened at the time, but I've just watched the replay and there is no way that Manu played at the ball. So the offside was accidental, meaning play restarts with a scrum? www.therfl.co.uk/a_guide_to_the_ ... 14_offside

Couple of referee enquiries:
Did one of Makinson's goals go through the posts? A lot of fans who had a better view seemed a bit aggrieved!

What was the decision given in the first half when Soliola tackled Russell in the air and Saints had the ball? Which I think yet went on to score from.

Not excuses or clutching straws, I am just curious if anyone knows the answers.

I think it was Westerman and Wellens running for the ball and he adjudged Westy was impeding Wello with the shoulders. Harsh IMO. Later in the game when Shenton broke one of their players did the same while running back but he ignored it. Lance O scored from it.

Thanks all for the replies, I was sure it didn't go through the posts but I'm too worn out blaming inept referees for our losses so decided against another rant!

It is shocking, though, that the refs are making so many mistakes that can potentially change whole games in terms of momentum and the actual score. The sooner the RFL realise that 2 refs are better then 1, the better.

I'm all in favour of the two ref system but there isn't the numbers nor the quality to do so.

Have to start somewhere. Recruit more refs, have the 2nd ref as a rookie/part-time ref just to watch the ruck whilst the FT ref watches the offsides, obstructions etc. It has to be done, the refs have too much of an impact to change games.

Christ, imagine having to cope with Ganson AND Alibert in the same game.