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Ganson had a really poor second half and the forward pass was shocking. We shouldn't have let the lead slip though but we also got some bad luck along the way. Martin getting injured gave them the ball and then they scored where he would have been defendinga couple of tackles later. Then the forward pass which was a joke. Then poor defending by Turner, Seymour and Sharp for the winning try. Wasn't really a capitulation but we had the game in the bag and where the better side for most of it.

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Anyone else think that if we had Whiting playing we would have won? To quote Dobson yesterday (who was talking to my mate) "how did the referee not see that"?

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Quote: unknownlegend "Anyone else think that if we had Whiting playing we would have won? To quote Dobson yesterday (who was talking to my mate) "how did the referee not see that"?'"
Speaking to Rich Whiting on Friday.... he was 'livid' that he had been suspended. He really wanted to be at Manchester..... but said he couldnt sit on the sides and watch.Not a happy bunny at all !!!!
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Quote: meatpaste "If we stopped the game for every 'injury' we would end up like football with players going down like Drogba. It was not a head injury so the game rightly continued. The injury was just bad luck as no one was near him when he went down . If he had gone down with cramp would you stop the game. NO.'"

But Martin didn't just go down with cramp, did he? It's potentially a career ending injury for him, almost certainly at Hull, and he had to be carried off. It was a joke that there was a spinalboard and 3-4 medical staff on the pitch whilst the game was still playing!

The game stopped for the Wigan/Saints game for an injury.

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Quote: tommyfromhull "But Martin didn't just go down with cramp, did he? It's potentially a career ending injury for him, almost certainly at Hull, and he had to be carried off. It was a joke that there was a spinalboard and 3-4 medical staff on the pitch whilst the game was still playing!

The game stopped for the Wigan/Saints game for an injury.'"


As I said earlier how many times has anyone seen a player stretchered off in back play whilst a game continued to be played ? He finished up being carried off on shoulders as the conversion was being kicked I suspect because he was near the sideline/dugout otherwise they would have carried him on the stretcher. Pathetic work from the officials.

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Just looked on YouTube to see wether the. Stretcher was on or if he was been carried off whilst Latus was scoring but there's nothing there YET, I'm not saying this didn't happen, but it seems a bit on the quick side if it did.
It looksed like he went down with cramp at the time so I'm not suprised the ref didn't stop it tbh. Usually when a serious injury happens the tacklers alert the ref, unfortunately for Tony Martin and Hull, this was a freakish injury that had none.

Having just seen the above post, scrap the first part of this post.

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Morning Ladies, my 1st appearance on here since the game. I'm not trolling or even gloating but my 2 penneth is this. The forward pass was a truly awful decision, and one that Ganson should even have seen himself from in-goal. We had moved from behind the sticks at half time and relocated in the corner, directly in line with the incident. Conservatively, the pass ended up about 3 feet forward, and Ganson immediately looked to his TJ. The real villan in the piece just ran to the corner so Ganson gave it.

There was a Hull fan sat behind me and I found myself apologising to him for such a gash decision. However, I certainly thought it was just mere consolation at the time. Seymour was the ultimate cause of your loss, as he put in a "Welham-esque" tackle attempt on Hodgson. I still can't work out why Sharp got burned for pace thereafter.

Heads up people, it was only 2 points, and if you play remotely to your potential you will be top 6, and bounce back to thump Saints. At the same time, we will revert to type and get humped by Wire. One final thing, I haven't read the full thread, but was there really any need to suggest that Dobson deserves a [i"good kicking[/i" for being a[i "cheating little turd[/i"? What was he supposed to do in the circumstances?

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Quote: SirStan "Morning Ladies, my 1st appearance on here since the game. I'm not trolling or even gloating but my 2 penneth is this. The forward pass was a truly awful decision, and one that Ganson should even have seen himself from in-goal. We had moved from behind the sticks at half time and relocated in the corner, directly in line with the incident. Conservatively, the pass ended up about 3 feet forward, and Ganson immediately looked to his TJ. The real villan in the piece just ran to the corner so Ganson gave it.

There was a Hull fan sat behind me and I found myself apologising to him for such a gash decision. However, I certainly thought it was just mere consolation at the time. Seymour was the ultimate cause of your loss, as he put in a "Welham-esque" tackle attempt on Hodgson. I still can't work out why Sharp got burned for pace thereafter.

Heads up people, it was only 2 points, and if you play remotely to your potential you will be top 6, and bounce back to thump Saints. At the same time, we will revert to type and get humped by Wire. One final thing, I haven't read the full thread, but was there really any need to suggest that Dobson deserves a [i"good kicking[/i" for being a[i "cheating little turd[/i"? What was he supposed to do in the circumstances?'"

I don't blame Dobsonat all, blame Ganson. As for Seymour/Sharp, their effort was poor at the end put they should not have been in that situation in the first place.

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Quote: SirStan "Morning Ladies, my 1st appearance on here since the game. I'm not trolling or even gloating but my 2 penneth is this. The forward pass was a truly awful decision, and one that Ganson should even have seen himself from in-goal. We had moved from behind the sticks at half time and relocated in the corner, directly in line with the incident. Conservatively, the pass ended up about 3 feet forward, and Ganson immediately looked to his TJ. The real villan in the piece just ran to the corner so Ganson gave it.

There was a Hull fan sat behind me and I found myself apologising to him for such a gash decision. However, I certainly thought it was just mere consolation at the time. Seymour was the ultimate cause of your loss, as he put in a "Welham-esque" tackle attempt on Hodgson. I still can't work out why Sharp got burned for pace thereafter.

Heads up people, it was only 2 points, and if you play remotely to your potential you will be top 6, and bounce back to thump Saints. At the same time, we will revert to type and get humped by Wire. One final thing, I haven't read the full thread, but was there really any need to suggest that Dobson deserves a [i"good kicking[/i" for being a[i "cheating little turd[/i"? What was he supposed to do in the circumstances?'"



Whoever said that is a bit silly imo.

Talking of poor refs, why wasn't there a big stink when Halibut gave a 20 mt restart after Sinfield jumped from the field of play and caught the ball in goal, then did a quick tap and Leeds went on to score a match clinching try?
Lots of poor refs unfortunately and it's just not getting better.

Lots of poor referees

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Quote: bishops finger "Just looked on YouTube to see wether the. Stretcher was on or if he was been carried off whilst Latus was scoring but there's nothing there YET, I'm not saying this didn't happen, but it seems a bit on the quick side if it did.
It looksed like he went down with cramp at the time so I'm not suprised the ref didn't stop it tbh. Usually when a serious injury happens the tacklers alert the ref, unfortunately for Tony Martin and Hull, this was a freakish injury that had none.

Having just seen the above post, scrap the first part of this post.'"


My Mrs noticed a player down and as we tried to work out who it was, I ignored the play so I saw all the movement from the physios. Almost as soon as the first one reached Martin, he signalled and the second one ran out, followed by the spinal board/stretcher. The first gesture was pretty clear that Martin wasn't taking any further part and the speed of movement from the rest indicated to me, albeit 70/80 metres away, that it was a serious injury. Whether play stops is up to the officials, but as long as they're consistent in future and we get some benefit, no complaints icon_wink.gif

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Ganson/TJ made a bad mistake with the forward pass, but the only people to blame are the team for letting a 14 point lead slip. For a team that has been very good defensively (barring Wigan) we should not be letting games slip away like that. Hopefully the team will learn from this and we can kick on with a win against Saints this week.

As for the Martin injury, firstly it was not a head injury and secondly it was not interfering with play so the decision to play on was the correct decision as far as i am concerned. If we start stopping the play every time a player goes down, we will soon be into the realms of football and players will feign injury to get defences set again.

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Quote: hullbg "Ganson/TJ made a bad mistake with the forward pass, but the only people to blame are the team for letting a 14 point lead slip. For a team that has been very good defensively (barring Wigan) we should not be letting games slip away like that. Hopefully the team will learn from this and we can kick on with a win against Saints this week.

As for the Martin injury, firstly it was not a head injury and secondly it was not interfering with play so the decision to play on was the correct decision as far as i am concerned. If we start stopping the play every time a player goes down, we will soon be into the realms of football and players will feign injury to get defences set again.'"

I still don't understand this argument, Latus scored on Martin's wing so his injury directly interfered with play. And what if Briscoe got an intercept and ran into Martin and his doctors? Ridiculous decision to play on.

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Quote: tommyfromhull "I still don't understand this argument, Latus scored on Martin's wing so his injury directly interfered with play. And what if Briscoe got an intercept and ran into Martin and his doctors? Ridiculous decision to play on.'"

Pretty sure if Briscoe made an intercept he would see where the injured player/doctors were and would avoid them. It did not interfere with play, yes it hampered us with a player short but why should the opposition lose momentum because a player is injured?? It would like i said leave it wide open for teams to exploit and anybody who thinks teams would not is kidding themselves.
Would people be saying the same thing if Welham was injured and we went on to score??

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Quote: tommyfromhull "I still don't understand this argument, Latus scored on Martin's wing so his injury directly interfered with play. And what if Briscoe got an intercept and ran into Martin and his doctors? Ridiculous decision to play on.'"


It really wasn't. All your argument is based on hindsight, whereas at the time, it was an injury to a player in back play, something that happens in almost every game. The severity of the injury could not have been known at the time, nor could the potential consequences.

Reverting to stopping the game under these circumstances would change RL completely and we would all get home 10 mins later every week.

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Quote: hullbg "Pretty sure if Briscoe made an intercept he would see where the injured player/doctors were and would avoid them. It did not interfere with play, yes it hampered us with a player short but why should the opposition lose momentum because a player is injured?? It would like i said leave it wide open for teams to exploit and anybody who thinks teams would not is kidding themselves.
Would people be saying the same thing if Welham was injured and we went on to score??'"

So Briscoe has to avoid doctors, and so do the players chasing him? Load of rubbish. It was an unfair advantage and pure BS.

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