I do think that we've had a certain amount of luck this season with players like Phelps, Gleeson and Obst becoming available when they did. It makes you wonder where we'd be if hadn't been able to pick up those three on the back of Tansey and Berrigan going.

The one thing I would say on the 'forward planning' front is that we went into the season without the much talked about halfback cover that everyone knew we needed. Surely it wouldn't have been unreasonable to have tried to get Obst here in the off-season? Anyway, now that we have the squad we have (with no real injuries of note) we really have to kick on and get moving up the table. If we finish 7th or 8th this season that is an underachievement and there won't be any excuses in my opinion.

I thought o'meley had a back injury before he came over?

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Is that a reconstruction?

I remember that day well, Heremaia didn't make much of an impact from scrum half. James Webster was the best in that division and ran the show.

However he did have a very good season for Leigh and was very highly rated by their fans. Since then he has moved to hooker and done well at a much higher level.

He could be a decent signing and I also think he will still be capable of switching back to No. 7 if needed which has to be useful. Be interesting to know his status re. quota and non-fed if he is exempt in at least one then he is worth the gamble.

Not sure think its more a method of surgery but the injury was obviously significant enough to knock him out for the season.

There is a world of difference on the effect a debilitating leg injury can have on the performance of a back compared to a forward, particularly when they are on the wrong side of 30.

The world and his wife (with the possible exception of Sheldon) will tell you that McKinnon's pace has 'gone' since his knee was shot.

Was positive about signing a 21 year old english player but then all this was lost to see we signed a finished aussie an a hooker never played top level consistently, the southern hemisphere agents must love it when they cannot find find a club for finished players to then see HFC We need to be building a youg team not patching a new team each year hoping for one season success.

I dont make mistakes as far a 'forward Planning' is concerned. I dont want to get into the argument about how long I have been a supporter - and yes Hull FC have been my passion for so long you dont really want to know. The Club I admire more than any other are ST Helens - they have constantly been at the top in all my years. They dont need to 'Forward Plan' it just happens. Would really have loved to be like them - our success years are so few but I would have liked in all these years more than the odd Yorkshire Cup win and 2 Challenge Cup wins. Anyway maybe next year!

Maybe you should read my posts on McKinnon?

People who are so bothered about his injury here is a quiz, find the link....

Nathan Fien, Lance Hohaia, Andrew Johns, David Shillington, Trevor Thurling, Joel Monaghan, Josh Miller, Michael Ennis, Trevor Thurling (2nd), Ashley Harrison, Wes Naiqama, Brent Tate, Darren Lockyer, Shane Tronc, Shannon McDonnell, William Zillman, Will Chambers, Willie Mason, Steve Turner, Brett Seymour, William Zillman (2nd), Ben MacDougall, Adam Woolnough, Steve Michaels, James Aubusson, Brent Tate (2nd),

and thats only the "top" players upto and including '09 you could and Campese, Vatuvai, Tate (3rd) and many others to that list.

Wouldn't want any of those playing for us would we?

I can answer!!!!