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| Quote: number 6 "coaches responsibility to coach players to wrap the man and ball up in the tackle!'"
If top class rugby league players need coaching that then they maybe should consider a different career!!!!!
The players know what they are supposed to do, they just didn't do it 
The coach can coach them all he likes but has absolutely no control on players actions/performance once they are on the park. |
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| Quote: airliebird9 "It must've been the coach that was dropping off tackles the last 2 games then ![]()
He was all to exuberant at the start of the season ...wasn't he?
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| Quote: Captain Dave "Even with a poor run of results you will still have Agar for at least another year.'"
We know!  |
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| Quote: PAUL M "Do the players have to take some blame, YES! However Agar is not and never will be the right man for the job.'"
I totally agree. Agar may be a little out of his depth but it's the players that play. Some of them simply are not good enough |
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| Quote: PAUL M "Must have been the coach was YET AGAIN was unable to motivate the players. Where is our quick ptb's? Why don't we fight to get to our feet quicker? Why don't we offload more? Why don't we support the man with the ball? Where are our runners? Where is our desire?
Do the players have to take some blame, YES! However Agar is not and never will be the right man for the job.'"
We sign players who have international quality,
and yet the coach has only experience at best- amateur level.
Would you get the likes of Chelsea and Man Utd,
employing a coach from Accrington Stanley??? |
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| Quote: B0NES "He was all to exuberant at the start of the season ...wasn't he?'"
Don't know, I missed the first 6 games of the season, i was abroad.  |
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| Quote: airliebird9 "If top class rugby league players need coaching that then they maybe should consider a different career!!!!!
The players know what they are supposed to do, they just didn't do it ![]()
The preparation , team selection ,game plan , tactics and set plays are his remit though.
There seems to be quite a few posters questioning his ability to cover these fundamentals.
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| Quote: Captain Dave "The preparation , team selection ,game plan , tactics and set plays are his remit though.
There seems to be quite a few posters questioning his ability to cover these fundamentals.'"
I would suggest that most of the posters have no idea what goes on behind closed doors at training/in the changing room/in preperation etc etc, but it is incredibly easy to blame the coach. We lost the last 2 games to Leeds because the players failed to tackle the opposition adequately enough to stop them unloading and/or continuing down fthe field.
Agar does not fill me with confidence or inspire me either but the players must take some responsibility too. |
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| Quote: Captain Dave "The preparation , team selection ,game plan , tactics and set plays are his remit though.
There seems to be quite a few posters questioning his ability to cover these fundamentals.'"
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| Quote: airliebird9 "I totally agree. Agar may be a little out of his depth but it's the players that play. Some of them simply are not good enough ![]()
This argument keeps coming back, and quite frankly it doesn't wash and is actually starting to get more than just a bit irritating. The majority of our squad (including today) have shown in the past and still in glimpses now that they definitely ARE good enough. Now, 1 or 2 being past their best is realistic, but for almost an entire squad of players to have slumped to playing below the level they are capable of points to one thing, and one thing only: The coach they are now playing for cannot get the best out of them. There's only one logical course of action, and handing out a 2-year contract extension is not it.
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| Quote: airliebird9 "I would suggest that most of the posters have no idea what goes on behind closed doors at training/in the changing room/in preperation etc etc, but it is incredibly easy to blame the coach. We lost the last 2 games to Leeds because the players failed to tackle the opposition adequately enough to stop them unloading and/or continuing down fthe field.
Agar does not fill me with confidence or inspire me either but the players must take some responsibility too.'"
You should be coach.  |
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| Quote: airliebird9 "I would suggest that most of the posters have no idea what goes on behind closed doors at training/in the changing room/in preperation etc etc, but it is incredibly easy to blame the coach. We lost the last 2 games to Leeds because the players failed to tackle the opposition adequately enough to stop them unloading and/or continuing down fthe field.
Agar does not fill me with confidence or inspire me either but the players must take some responsibility too.'"
And we don't need to, match day is the bottom line. If we aren't up for it on matchdays, the coach is not doing his job, no excuses. Do you think if Saints/Leeds trained great for 5 days but played abjectly every weekend Potter/McLennan would keep their jobs? |
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| Quote: airliebird9 "I would suggest that most of the posters have no idea what goes on behind closed doors at training/in the changing room/in preperation etc etc, but it is incredibly easy to blame the coach. We lost the last 2 games to Leeds because the players failed to tackle the opposition adequately enough to stop them unloading and/or continuing down fthe field.
Agar does not fill me with confidence or inspire me either but the players must take some responsibility too.'"
Wigan have the same squad of players as last season.
What's the fundamental reason, for their dramatic change in attitude,and playing style??? |
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| Quote: carl_spackler "And we don't need to, match day is the bottom line. If we aren't up for it on matchdays, the coach is not doing his job, no excuses. Do you think if Saints/Leeds trained great for 5 days but played abjectly every weekend Potter/McLennan would keep their jobs?'"
As the legend Jack Gibson once said
"Winning starts on Mondays" |
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