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| Cast your minds back a few months, i got fed up of Long, Fitz and any other new face that came to the club saying "after speaking with Rich Agar, what a good coach he is, thats why ive come to a big club like Hull FC"
It got embarrassing hearing the same spin all the time when, after watching 2 years of dross under his regime, even the normal man on the street thought the opposite.
Signing was nothing to do with the money then?
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| Quote: t.m.t.b.f. "Cast your minds back a few months, i got fed up of Long, Fitz and any other new face that came to the club saying "after speaking with Rich Agar, what a good coach he is, thats why ive come to a big club like Hull FC"
It got embarrassing hearing the same spin all the time when, after watching 2 years of dross under his regime, even the normal man on the street thought the opposite.
Signing was nothing to do with the money then?'"
It's always obvious that quotes attributed to new signings in press releases (at any club) come from the club rather than the player.
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| Quote: ComeOnYouUll "It's always obvious that quotes attributed to new signings in press releases (at any club) come from the club rather than the player.'"
Then why do they quote it? That must cheese the player off straight away before he even plays or do they have the "print what you fookin like, that contracts amazin" attitude.
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| print this ....AGAR OUT
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| IMO I never have thought agarright man for the job. He's a fool without a clue!!! Reminds me of " the fonzy " in the waterboy when things aren't going right.. get shot of now and stop the fans living with the embarrassment of this fool.. we deserve better!!
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| This side we have has had some good wins but has been inconsistant which is the problem and that is down to the coach's motivation of the skillful squad he has at his disposal,
What do you think will happen if Agar goes?
Will the job be advertised nationally and also in New Zealand and Australia with all C.Vs carefully fine tooth combed to get the best man available in on a top wage?
We all know the answer to that one from the last ten years past experience.
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| Quote: muddyboots "
What do you think will happen if Agar goes?
Will the job be advertised nationally and also in New Zealand and Australia experience.'"
Jokin arent you knowing our boards recruitment of coaches it will be in the job centre in Hessle
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| Quote: dundeeblackandwhite "IMO I never have thought agarright man for the job. He's a fool without a clue!!! Reminds me of " the fonzy " in the waterboy when things aren't going right.. get shot of now and stop the fans living with the embarrassment of this fool.. we deserve better!!'"
And Hame is the waterboy
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And Hame is the waterboy
but you can tell him that on your own
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| Quote: berrigans bitch "TBF Wolfie if you read the threads they are critical of the players...however at some point you have to accept the responsibility lies at Agars feet..
He fails to drop players who are constantly performing poorly...(Briscoe)..yet drops others at the drop of a hat..(Hall)
We have one of the best players I have ever seen..(Fitz)..Agar is flogging the man to death, yet fails to utilise..Washy & Moa hardly, in order to rest Fitz..He never even spells Fitz in a game..but take Berro off every bl00dy game!!
His away record is poor, his selections are poor, his interchanges are poor...
And I have supported him and defended him but I am afraid he appears to be failing.'"
But the responsibility for what? For being 5th in the table having beaten 2 of the clubs above us (one of which is only on points difference) that everyone is raving about how good they are? It all seems a bit premature to me. If we beat Warrington we will have beaten another of the top clubs and if we beat Rovers we will have beaten a top-four finisher of last year. The general consensus seemed to be (in the close season) that people would be happy to finish 6th, 7th or 8th and that we were deluding oursleves if we thought we would finish higher. Also a ten-game threshold seemed to be a favoured cut-off point (Easter). Well we're higher at the moment and in just over a week's time we will have played ten games. Let's wait until after Easter at least before we call for his head and, if we have lost those two matches, then let's not make a knee-jerk reaction where we're left promoting Moore just because he's on hand to come in as a caretaker manager. I'm not saying Moore isn't capable - he might well be the man for the job like the other two Aussie coaches that everyone is raving about - but I would like the club to consider the options more closely.
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| Quote: downtheante "But the responsibility for what? For being 5th in the table having beaten 2 of the clubs above us (one of which is only on points difference) that everyone is raving about how good they are? It all seems a bit premature to me. If we beat Warrington we will have beaten another of the top clubs and if we beat Rovers we will have beaten a top-four finisher of last year. The general consensus seemed to be (in the close season) that people would be happy to finish 6th, 7th or 8th and that we were deluding oursleves if we thought we would finish higher. Also a ten-game threshold seemed to be a favoured cut-off point (Easter). Well we're higher at the moment and in just over a week's time we will have played ten games. Let's wait until after Easter at least before we call for his head and, if we have lost those two matches, then let's not make a knee-jerk reaction where we're left promoting Moore just because he's on hand to come in as a caretaker manager. I'm not saying Moore isn't capable - he might well be the man for the job like the other two Aussie coaches that everyone is raving about - but I would like the club to consider the options more closely.'"
I've never been a fan of sacking a coach mid-season. Once you make a decision on a head coach you should stick with it, unless something like relegation is looming. As you quite rightly point out we should wait until after the easter period to assess where we are.
We have had some very good results this season as well as the poor ones so its difficult to say if Agar should go or not based on the results so far especially when you consider the spine of the team is still relatively new. I never wanted Agar in the first place and he hasn't done anything in his time to change my mind but we dont know anything new now that we didn't know before. I said at the start of the season that I hoped we were sounding out potential replacements for next season when his contract expires and I still hope that is the case. I'd be dissapointed if we promote Moore to head coach which is exactly what will happen if Agar is sacked mid season.
As for this season, I still think we have the ability to get up for the big games, particularly at home. The cup therefore represents our best chance of silverware this season if we can get past an injury ravaged Leeds and get a favourable draw.
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| Personally id sack Agar, put Moore in charge, as thats what he's here for and not to be an assistant, and then give him till the end of the season to see what he can do.
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| Quote: Sebasteeno "Personally id sack Agar, put Moore in charge, as thats what he's here for and not to be an assistant, and then give him till the end of the season to see what he can do.'"
couldnt agree more!! then at the end of the season clear the decks and start again ALL the coaches
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| Quote: wolfie "when we win tho nowts said about him'" I kinda think Agar brought that on himself by his arrogant claim that he doesnt do any video work on the opposition. This means we play to the same structures week in week out and is the reason why we are yet again getting found out as a offensive unit.
If Agar has any sense he would watch the Catalans v HKR game and see how Rovers square markers work with the 2nd marker shooting off and the 1st marker holding his place which is the opposite to how sides normally work. This is something Kevin Walters must have saw on tape and went at again and again with great sucess.
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