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Quote Hutchie="Hutchie"Considering he has been first choice right centre almost since 2004 (sometimes there has been no other option to free him up to play elsewhere), its a bit hard for him to have claimed the 13 shirt.
Apart from getting injure 07/08 which let G Horne in.
Although in 05 played quite a few at 13
www.slstats.org/p485/Richard%20Whiting.html'"
That link's a tad unfair labelling him as 'somewhat injury prone'. Two broken bones account for the majority of the time he's spent injured.
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Quote Hutchie="Hutchie"Considering he has been first choice right centre almost since 2004 (sometimes there has been no other option to free him up to play elsewhere), its a bit hard for him to have claimed the 13 shirt.
Apart from getting injure 07/08 which let G Horne in.
Although in 05 played quite a few at 13
www.slstats.org/p485/Richard%20Whiting.html'"
That link's a tad unfair labelling him as 'somewhat injury prone'. Two broken bones account for the majority of the time he's spent injured.
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| Quote east hull FC fan="east hull FC fan"For 4 consecutive years? surely not!'"
Yes, you're right. We've had a really good time with injuries the last 4 years. Hardly any, in fact.
Quote east hull FC fan="east hull FC fan"I'm not against keeping him for his utility value, just think that there are other players who will get their chance before him (rightly or wrongly). At this stage in his career he should have a specific position, he doesn't really. Also at this stage in his career he should be looking for a better contract and will probably get one at salford/celtic or them sort of teams but IMO he won't get it at Hull and that's why i think Rich and Hull will part company.'"
I don't think they will. I think he has bags of ability and would love to see him as first choice 13. I can see the argument for Washbrook being there above him, but he's so valuable to the squad that I reckon he'll stay around without cementing a regular place. I would be more than happy for him to play anywhere other than prop or wing in the event of injury and do pretty good job. There aren't too many players you can say that about.
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| Quote Amadeo Avogadro="Amadeo Avogadro"Yes, you're right. We've had a really good time with injuries the last 4 years. Hardly any, in fact.'"
I was thinking more 2004-2007.
Quote Amadeo Avogadro="Amadeo Avogadro"I don't think they will. I think he has bags of ability and would love to see him as first choice 13. I can see the argument for Washbrook being there above him, but he's so valuable to the squad that I reckon he'll stay around without cementing a regular place. I would be more than happy for him to play anywhere other than prop or wing in the event of injury and do pretty good job. There aren't too many players you can say that about.'"
But if he enters into negotiations with Hull and asks for a bit more money to do what he's doing now then i don't think he's good enough value, if he's happy to pick up a "utility" wage then i'm more than happy to see him stay, he will always give 100% but he's solid not spectacular, which is the point.
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| Quote east hull FC fan="east hull FC fan"But if he enters into negotiations with Hull and asks for a bit more money to do what he's doing now then i don't think he's good enough value, if he's happy to pick up a "utility" wage then i'm more than happy to see him stay, he will always give 100% but he's solid not spectacular, which is the point.'"
As a matter of interest, how much is he earning now? And how much extra would push him into the 'not good value' bracket? Come to that, how much is a 'utility' wage?
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| Quote east hull FC fan="east hull FC fan"I was thinking more 2004-2007.
But if he enters into negotiations with Hull and asks for a bit more money to do what he's doing now then i don't think he's good enough value, if he's happy to pick up a "utility" wage then i'm more than happy to see him stay, he will always give 100% but he's solid not spectacular, which is the point.'"
I think this 'solid, not spectacular' tag is a little unfair to Whiting. He does some very clever things in attack and defends very well. He doesn't go the length of the pitch, granted, but then, who does? He'll never be a Berrigan, a Long, or a Fitzgibbon, but he's among the better half of SL players, in my opinion.
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| Quote east hull FC fan="east hull FC fan"I was thinking more 2004-2007.'"
You mean the three seasons where he was covering right centre most games as our first choice(s) was(were) constantly missing through injury?
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"As a matter of interest, how much is he earning now? And how much extra would push him into the 'not good value' bracket? Come to that, how much is a 'utility' wage?
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And also, why should a 'utility' wage be lower than someone playing only one position?
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"You mean the three seasons where he was covering right centre most games as our first choice(s) was(were) constantly missing through injury?'" No 2004-2007 is 4 seasons. So by that he's mainly a centre then surely?
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"As a matter of interest, how much is he earning now? And how much extra would push him into the 'not good value' bracket? Come to that, how much is a 'utility' wage?
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'" His new contract is for 32000 per year with 7% image rights! How the hell should i know, but i would be disappointed to learn that he earned anymore than Graham Horne did.
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| Quote Amadeo Avogadro="Amadeo Avogadro"And also, why should a 'utility' wage be lower than someone playing only one position?'" I didn't say they should.
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| Quote east hull FC fan="east hull FC fan"I didn't say they should.'"
and why should a player with a utility tag be viewed as less talented than a single position player??
this fixation some have with what players earn is tedious to say the very least as its got nothing to do with us and very few if any outside the club know anyway!
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| Quote east hull FC fan="east hull FC fan"I didn't say they should.'"
It was strongly implied.
Quote east hull FC fan="east hull FC fan"i would be disappointed to learn that he earned anymore than Graham Horne did.'"
He's a much better player than Horne and, as such, ought to earn more.
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