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| Quote ="forevafaithful"presenters opinions shouldnt be expressed over the air and thats what the clown did..rightly banned'"
Alright then, let's turn this round. Fans' opinions shouldn't be expressed on an internet forum. How does that make you feel?
Burns expressed an opinion in a publicly-accessed forum. Much, much worse is expressed in other publicly-accessed forums.
Burns' crime here has been to express what lots of people were thinking, ok so he ramped it up a bit but that's for the benefit of the show. Do we really want to see all media outlets become sickly-sweet and butter up to the people in charge? How boring would that be?
It seems Rule doesn't want to advocate freedom of speech. Why doesn't he just don an SS uniform and have done with it?
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| Quote ="Kosh"Our own YouTube channel? Sponsored blimps? Skywriting?'"
Yes Hull FCTV will be renamed RULE TUBE
Lets just say our clubs control over certain aspects of the media will be more enforced ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Quote ="Hutchie"Yes Hull FCTV will be renamed RULE TUBE
Lets just say our clubs control over certain aspects of the media will be more enforced
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At least Hutchie has taken his blinkers off... pity a few others are still bearing the standard of the blind faithful
Well done Hutchie for speaking your mind
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| Quote ="Basil Fawlty"At least Hutchie has taken his blinkers off... pity a few others are still bearing the standard of the blind faithful
Well done Hutchie for speaking your mind'"
He's just re-directed them.
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| Quote ="Sexual Deviant"Alright then, let's turn this round. Fans' opinions shouldn't be expressed on an internet forum. How does that make you feel?
Burns expressed an opinion in a publicly-accessed forum. Much, much worse is expressed in other publicly-accessed forums.
Burns' crime here has been to express what lots of people were thinking, ok so he ramped it up a bit but that's for the benefit of the show. Do we really want to see all media outlets become sickly-sweet and butter up to the people in charge? How boring would that be?
It seems Rule doesn't want to advocate freedom of speech. Why doesn't he just don an SS uniform and have done with it?'"
burns is a paid employee of the bbc
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| Quote ="Sexual Deviant"Alright then, let's turn this round. Fans' opinions shouldn't be expressed on an internet forum. How does that make you feel?
Burns expressed an opinion in a publicly-accessed forum. Much, much worse is expressed in other publicly-accessed forums.'"
If you really can't see the difference between what's said by fans on a forum and what's broadcast by a presenter on a publicly-funded radio station then you're even dafter than I previously thought.
Quote ="Sexual Deviant"Burns' crime here has been to express what lots of people were thinking, ok so he ramped it up a bit but that's for the benefit of the show. Do we really want to see all media outlets become sickly-sweet and butter up to the people in charge? How boring would that be?'"
There is a perfectly acceptable middle ground in which the vast majority of broadcast media function.
Quote ="Sexual Deviant"It seems Rule doesn't want to advocate freedom of speech. Why doesn't he just don an SS uniform and have done with it?'"
Yes indeed, folks. Refusing to speak to a local radio station is directly comparable to the actions of the Waffen SS.
One more such comparison and I'll invoke Godwins.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"burns is a paid employee of the bbc'"
Hot off the press is that? ![Rolling Eyes icon_rolleyes.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_rolleyes.gif)
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| Quote ="Ovid"Will the club ban every medi organisation that dares to criticise it? Burns said nothing that he could be taken to court for. This is a case of FC saying 'criticise us and we'll cut you off' - it's pathetic really. They should get the FC house in order so they don't give anyone anything to be critical about. There's no smoke without fire and all that...'"
You have missed the point by such a distance it reminds me of one of our drop goal attempts.
Burns and his Sportstalk programme continually persist to undermine Hull FC at all levels from the board through the coaches to the team performances and have done since the sour grapes that were trodden during Cookiegate.
All publicity is NOT good publicity if it is eternally negative. People start to believe there are embers under the smoke and the target becomes a victim. The world is now in a financial depression catalysed by media frenzy, Peter Sharp (the lucky devil) sits paddling his toes from his beach side veranda, poor Jade Goody went from evil rascist to tragic celebrity purely as a result of the changing strategies the media decided to direct at her.
Fewey was another example. The letters he received became increasingly anti-Hull the more he poked fun at us EVERY WEEK in his column. Rule eventually intervened there as well.
He had to - just as he had to pounce when given this opportunity by Burns finally overstepping the mark.
Because negativity breeds and tall poppies wither and die.
Our club and fans don't deserve or need that. One man's bitterness cannot be allowed to even begin to scrape something that is great in our city. Burns and Fewey wax lyrical about the greatness of Duffen and what he has brought to the city. Hull FC have been ambassadors for decades, along with Hull KR. These fly-by-nights who undermine that should be forced to stop if their respective employers will not take steps.
The fact remains that Burns should represent, as an employee of our local BBC, whose wages are paid by us, EVERYTHING positive in our local sport. Of course, there are times when bad things happen and this should rightly be highlighted as part of the overall ups and downs of sport and it's politics.
But Burns doesn't do this with regard to our club. His spite continully chips away daily encouraging the sheep he allows on his program who call themselves Hull FC fans to spread his poison.
Rule can't stop that. But he has, and rightly, cauterised the news supply.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"You have missed the point by such a distance it reminds me of one of our drop goal attempts.
Burns and his Sportstalk programme continually persist to undermine Hull FC at all levels from the board through the coaches to the team performances and have done since the sour grapes that were trodden during Cookiegate.
All publicity is NOT good publicity if it is eternally negative. People start to believe there are embers under the smoke and the target becomes a victim. The world is now in a financial depression catalysed by media frenzy, Peter Sharp (the lucky devil) sits paddling his toes from his beach side veranda, poor Jade Goody went from evil rascist to tragic celebrity purely as a result of the changing strategies the media decided to direct at her.
Fewey was another example. The letters he received became increasingly anti-Hull the more he poked fun at us EVERY WEEK in his column. Rule eventually intervened there as well.
He had to - just as he had to pounce when given this opportunity by Burns finally overstepping the mark.
Because negativity breeds and tall poppies wither and die.
Our club and fans don't deserve or need that. One man's bitterness cannot be allowed to even begin to scrape something that is great in our city. Burns and Fewey wax lyrical about the greatness of Duffen and what he has brought to the city. Hull FC have been ambassadors for decades, along with Hull KR. These fly-by-nights who undermine that should be forced to stop if their respective employers will not take steps.
The fact remains that Burns should represent, as an employee of our local BBC, whose wages are paid by us, EVERYTHING positive in our local sport. Of course, there are times when bad things happen and this should rightly be highlighted as part of the overall ups and downs of sport and it's politics.
But Burns doesn't do this with regard to our club. His spite continully chips away daily encouraging the sheep he allows on his program who call themselves Hull FC fans to spread his poison.
Rule can't stop that. But he has, and rightly, cauterised the news supply.'"
Precisely.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"You have missed the point by such a distance it reminds me of one of our drop goal attempts.
Burns and his Sportstalk programme continually persist to undermine Hull FC at all levels from the board through the coaches to the team performances and have done since the sour grapes that were trodden during Cookiegate.
All publicity is NOT good publicity if it is eternally negative. People start to believe there are embers under the smoke and the target becomes a victim. The world is now in a financial depression catalysed by media frenzy, Peter Sharp (the lucky devil) sits paddling his toes from his beach side veranda, poor Jade Goody went from evil rascist to tragic celebrity purely as a result of the changing strategies the media decided to direct at her.
Fewey was another example. The letters he received became increasingly anti-Hull the more he poked fun at us EVERY WEEK in his column. Rule eventually intervened there as well.
He had to - just as he had to pounce when given this opportunity by Burns finally overstepping the mark.
Because negativity breeds and tall poppies wither and die.
Our club and fans don't deserve or need that. One man's bitterness cannot be allowed to even begin to scrape something that is great in our city. Burns and Fewey wax lyrical about the greatness of Duffen and what he has brought to the city. Hull FC have been ambassadors for decades, along with Hull KR. These fly-by-nights who undermine that should be forced to stop if their respective employers will not take steps.
The fact remains that Burns should represent, as an employee of our local BBC, whose wages are paid by us, EVERYTHING positive in our local sport. Of course, there are times when bad things happen and this should rightly be highlighted as part of the overall ups and downs of sport and it's politics.
But Burns doesn't do this with regard to our club. His spite continully chips away daily encouraging the sheep he allows on his program who call themselves Hull FC fans to spread his poison.
Rule can't stop that. But he has, and rightly, cauterised the news supply.'"
Excellent post.
While walking around one of the stores in the city centre yesterday a group of elderly’s were griping about the state of the club, quoting Dumberside and the Nearly Mail alongside other recent rumours.
These rumours and bullpap do have a negative effect on the people/fans of the club/city.
The last thing we need is dead wood like Burns adding fuel to the fire.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"You have missed the point by such a distance it reminds me of one of our drop goal attempts.
Burns and his Sportstalk programme continually persist to undermine Hull FC at all levels from the board through the coaches to the team performances and have done since the sour grapes that were trodden during Cookiegate.
All publicity is NOT good publicity if it is eternally negative. People start to believe there are embers under the smoke and the target becomes a victim. The world is now in a financial depression catalysed by media frenzy, Peter Sharp (the lucky devil) sits paddling his toes from his beach side veranda, poor Jade Goody went from evil rascist to tragic celebrity purely as a result of the changing strategies the media decided to direct at her.
Fewey was another example. The letters he received became increasingly anti-Hull the more he poked fun at us EVERY WEEK in his column. Rule eventually intervened there as well.
He had to - just as he had to pounce when given this opportunity by Burns finally overstepping the mark.
Because negativity breeds and tall poppies wither and die.
Our club and fans don't deserve or need that. One man's bitterness cannot be allowed to even begin to scrape something that is great in our city. Burns and Fewey wax lyrical about the greatness of Duffen and what he has brought to the city. Hull FC have been ambassadors for decades, along with Hull KR. These fly-by-nights who undermine that should be forced to stop if their respective employers will not take steps.
The fact remains that Burns should represent, as an employee of our local BBC, whose wages are paid by us, EVERYTHING positive in our local sport. Of course, there are times when bad things happen and this should rightly be highlighted as part of the overall ups and downs of sport and it's politics.
But Burns doesn't do this with regard to our club. His spite continully chips away daily encouraging the sheep he allows on his program who call themselves Hull FC fans to spread his poison.
Rule can't stop that. But he has, and rightly, cauterised the news supply.'" excellent post agree with all that ![CLAP eusa_clap.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//eusa_clap.gif)
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| Quote ="Ovid"Will the club ban every medi organisation that dares to criticise it? Burns said nothing that he could be taken to court for. This is a case of FC saying 'criticise us and we'll cut you off' - it's pathetic really. They should get the FC house in order so they don't give anyone anything to be critical about. There's no smoke without fire and all that...'" It was the way the smart went about it.He was'nt criticising he was taking the p!ss.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"You have missed the point by such a distance it reminds me of one of our drop goal attempts.
Burns and his Sportstalk programme continually persist to undermine Hull FC at all levels from the board through the coaches to the team performances and have done since the sour grapes that were trodden during Cookiegate.
All publicity is NOT good publicity if it is eternally negative. People start to believe there are embers under the smoke and the target becomes a victim. The world is now in a financial depression catalysed by media frenzy, Peter Sharp (the lucky devil) sits paddling his toes from his beach side veranda, poor Jade Goody went from evil rascist to tragic celebrity purely as a result of the changing strategies the media decided to direct at her.
Fewey was another example. The letters he received became increasingly anti-Hull the more he poked fun at us EVERY WEEK in his column. Rule eventually intervened there as well.
He had to - just as he had to pounce when given this opportunity by Burns finally overstepping the mark.
Because negativity breeds and tall poppies wither and die.
Our club and fans don't deserve or need that. One man's bitterness cannot be allowed to even begin to scrape something that is great in our city. Burns and Fewey wax lyrical about the greatness of Duffen and what he has brought to the city. Hull FC have been ambassadors for decades, along with Hull KR. These fly-by-nights who undermine that should be forced to stop if their respective employers will not take steps.
The fact remains that Burns should represent, as an employee of our local BBC, whose wages are paid by us, EVERYTHING positive in our local sport. Of course, there are times when bad things happen and this should rightly be highlighted as part of the overall ups and downs of sport and it's politics.
But Burns doesn't do this with regard to our club. His spite continully chips away daily encouraging the sheep he allows on his program who call themselves Hull FC fans to spread his poison.
Rule can't stop that. But he has, and rightly, cauterised the news supply.'"
I have to say that what I read here is about the best argued and well debated post I have seen in months. You have hit the nail on the head particulaly about the sheep following, because a lot of folks and many on here, actually believe what they hear as the gospel truth. I have heard him on several occassions when I have been in his company, boasting about how the more gripes he gets the better he feels. We now have three of our regions 5 proffessional clubs taking issue one way or another with the radio station, surely that must point to something being a miss!!
great post!!
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| Quote ="Hull Kingston Convicts"Same Burns who left town for 3 years after nearly telling a story about David Lloyd.
Anyway, bit of a silly move by the club IMO. Further removing itself from the fans'"
you sure you have the right Dave ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Quote ="WormInHand"You have missed the point by such a distance it reminds me of one of our drop goal attempts.
Burns and his Sportstalk programme continually persist to undermine Hull FC at all levels from the board through the coaches to the team performances and have done since the sour grapes that were trodden during Cookiegate.
All publicity is NOT good publicity if it is eternally negative. People start to believe there are embers under the smoke and the target becomes a victim. The world is now in a financial depression catalysed by media frenzy, Peter Sharp (the lucky devil) sits paddling his toes from his beach side veranda, poor Jade Goody went from evil rascist to tragic celebrity purely as a result of the changing strategies the media decided to direct at her.
Fewey was another example. The letters he received became increasingly anti-Hull the more he poked fun at us EVERY WEEK in his column. Rule eventually intervened there as well.
He had to - just as he had to pounce when given this opportunity by Burns finally overstepping the mark.
Because negativity breeds and tall poppies wither and die.
Our club and fans don't deserve or need that. One man's bitterness cannot be allowed to even begin to scrape something that is great in our city. Burns and Fewey wax lyrical about the greatness of Duffen and what he has brought to the city. Hull FC have been ambassadors for decades, along with Hull KR. These fly-by-nights who undermine that should be forced to stop if their respective employers will not take steps.
The fact remains that Burns should represent, as an employee of our local BBC, whose wages are paid by us, EVERYTHING positive in our local sport. Of course, there are times when bad things happen and this should rightly be highlighted as part of the overall ups and downs of sport and it's politics.
But Burns doesn't do this with regard to our club. His spite continully chips away daily encouraging the sheep he allows on his program who call themselves Hull FC fans to spread his poison.
Rule can't stop that. But he has, and rightly, cauterised the news supply.'"
Spot on post, i could'nt agree more.Unfortunately some of the clowns that post on here will not be able to understand such a balanced view or choose to ignore it.
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| Quote ="Plateface"Spot on post, i could'nt agree more.Unfortunately some of the clowns that post on here will not be able to understand such a balanced view or choose to ignore it.'"
A bit harsh mate,people are entitled to an opinion.Right or wrong.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"You have missed the point by such a distance it reminds me of one of our drop goal attempts.
Burns and his Sportstalk programme continually persist to undermine Hull FC at all levels from the board through the coaches to the team performances and have done since the sour grapes that were trodden during Cookiegate.
All publicity is NOT good publicity if it is eternally negative. People start to believe there are embers under the smoke and the target becomes a victim. The world is now in a financial depression catalysed by media frenzy, Peter Sharp (the lucky devil) sits paddling his toes from his beach side veranda, poor Jade Goody went from evil rascist to tragic celebrity purely as a result of the changing strategies the media decided to direct at her.
Fewey was another example. The letters he received became increasingly anti-Hull the more he poked fun at us EVERY WEEK in his column. Rule eventually intervened there as well.
He had to - just as he had to pounce when given this opportunity by Burns finally overstepping the mark.
Because negativity breeds and tall poppies wither and die.
Our club and fans don't deserve or need that. One man's bitterness cannot be allowed to even begin to scrape something that is great in our city. Burns and Fewey wax lyrical about the greatness of Duffen and what he has brought to the city. Hull FC have been ambassadors for decades, along with Hull KR. These fly-by-nights who undermine that should be forced to stop if their respective employers will not take steps.
The fact remains that Burns should represent, as an employee of our local BBC, whose wages are paid by us, EVERYTHING positive in our local sport. Of course, there are times when bad things happen and this should rightly be highlighted as part of the overall ups and downs of sport and it's politics.
But Burns doesn't do this with regard to our club. His spite continully chips away daily encouraging the sheep he allows on his program who call themselves Hull FC fans to spread his poison.
Rule can't stop that. But he has, and rightly, cauterised the news supply.'"
Excellent post. ![DANCE icon_biggrin.gifANCE:](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//eusa_dance.gif)
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| Quote ="barton baird"A bit harsh mate,people are entitled to an op
nion.Right or wrong.'"
Yes, you are right and thats my opinion.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"You have missed the point by such a distance it reminds me of one of our drop goal attempts.
Burns and his Sportstalk programme continually persist to undermine Hull FC at all levels from the board through the coaches to the team performances and have done since the sour grapes that were trodden during Cookiegate.
All publicity is NOT good publicity if it is eternally negative. People start to believe there are embers under the smoke and the target becomes a victim. The world is now in a financial depression catalysed by media frenzy, Peter Sharp (the lucky devil) sits paddling his toes from his beach side veranda, poor Jade Goody went from evil rascist to tragic celebrity purely as a result of the changing strategies the media decided to direct at her.
Fewey was another example. The letters he received became increasingly anti-Hull the more he poked fun at us EVERY WEEK in his column. Rule eventually intervened there as well.
He had to - just as he had to pounce when given this opportunity by Burns finally overstepping the mark.
Because negativity breeds and tall poppies wither and die.
Our club and fans don't deserve or need that. One man's bitterness cannot be allowed to even begin to scrape something that is great in our city. Burns and Fewey wax lyrical about the greatness of Duffen and what he has brought to the city. Hull FC have been ambassadors for decades, along with Hull KR. These fly-by-nights who undermine that should be forced to stop if their respective employers will not take steps.
The fact remains that Burns should represent, as an employee of our local BBC, whose wages are paid by us, EVERYTHING positive in our local sport. Of course, there are times when bad things happen and this should rightly be highlighted as part of the overall ups and downs of sport and it's politics.
But Burns doesn't do this with regard to our club. His spite continully chips away daily encouraging the sheep he allows on his program who call themselves Hull FC fans to spread his poison.
Rule can't stop that. But he has, and rightly, cauterised the news supply.'"
Spot on. I don't think Burns has the word objective in his vocabulary
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