Are they......God awful defence.........serve them right if they lose

Trying their hardest to lose it.
Should be cruising.

Westy back on, with a nice run.

Westy was better than the "banged up" o'louighlin though

Told you they were tiring.

Total joke England

Bag of shoite

Westy on Graham's shoulder for match winning try.

great piece of work by tomkins

Quite enjoying it.
Always good when you're a neutral.

Westy picked in the squad on the back of a good year at Hull where he played as a ball playing loose forward.
Instructed to play today almost like an extra prop. There are probably another 5 or 6 (maybe even more) English players in the league good enough to do the task that Westy was given today. Think McNamara should have let Joe do what he does best, and what he has been doing all year.

We don't know he was instructed to play that way!
Agree but Westerman needs to have it in him to stamp that into his game at this level, like O'Loughlin does. Still early in his international career.

We don't, but the fact that at one point we had two Burgesses and Hill on, and a Burgess Hill Graham combo suggests the coach went for three props as part of his approach, so a ball player at 13 seems odd

I prayed McNamara would use Westy as an extra pivot. You know, what he's been doing fantastically well for us all year.

But no, he seemed to employ him as an extra front-man, which is not his game at all.

Disappointed, but not at Joe. He gave it his all.

can't see either of those 2 troubling us.