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Buy the man of steel in waiting Danny Brough

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He was right in the end:



AP aint banging on about the challenge 10k this year.

Looks like the car is safe

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Quote: Lostyorkie "Buy the man of steel in waiting Danny Brough'"

Do people honestly think, players are queuing up to sign for Hull ffs?

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Nope that's why Pearson needs to splash the cash to make his actions match his statements.

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Quote: A unknown superstar "And what are Salford going to do when the likes of Morley, Meli, TP, Hock etc all retire within a year or two? Resign a whole new team again?
As for Sandow, they don't need him with Fages as back up. Chase, Smith and Sandow would be too good to have one missing out each week.
We need a back rower and Con Mika isn't going to cut it with the fans. We need quality and preferably an impact player. Who that could be I don't know. Not so much an impact player but with Wakey in trouble, AP should offer money for Kirmond he had a great season last season. Gives 100% every game and would be more effective than any of our back rowers from this season.'"


Salfords recruitment for 2015 is already well underway and if the Doc is to be believed there will be some big names coming.
The likes of Morley,Meli and TP have all been brought in to guide us through what will be a tough year.Their experience is what we will need to gel all the new signings and to work with the good young forwards we have coming through the ranks.
Not convinced Sandow will be coming but will be interesting to say the least if he does.

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Quote: carl_spackler "Sandow is a good player, but the size of his wedge was a big factor in Kearney/Parra's woes. Can't see him walking away from that for little, so it's a lot of money Salford have tied up in the halves. See how much they have left to put good players around them in the next few years.'"


Melbourne Storm have been doing exactly that for a few years.A huge chunk of their Cap is used to keep Smith,Slater and Cronk.The reason they couldnt keep Widdop was because of Cap restrictions.They then fill in the rest of the team with average NRL talent,Veterans like Rose who they have just signed from Manly, and up and coming youngsters who wont be on big money.
Now i am not saying that is what Salford are trying to do but it is a proven model.

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Quote: JobsForTheWives "Melbourne Storm have been doing exactly that for a few years.A huge chunk of their Cap is used to keep Smith,Slater and Cronk.The reason they couldnt keep Widdop was because of Cap restrictions.They then fill in the rest of the team with average NRL talent,Veterans like Rose who they have just signed from Manly, and up and coming youngsters who wont be on big money.
Now i am not saying that is what Salford are trying to do but it is a proven model.'"


It's a proven model within reason. The NRL also has a bigger cap than us, as well as much bigger sponsorship deals and certain exemptions. For you just to match Sandow's salary you'd be in the region of £300k. If Chase is then on even 2/3rds of that you've already gone through nearly 1/3rd of your cap on 2 players, and for a number of years.

Also remember that whilst Melbourne might have been doing it for a few years, they were conveniently ignoring the cap for most of it.

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Quote: carl_spackler "It's a proven model within reason. The NRL also has a bigger cap than us, as well as much bigger sponsorship deals and certain exemptions. For you just to match Sandow's salary you'd be in the region of £300k. If Chase is then on even 2/3rds of that you've already gone through nearly 1/3rd of your cap on 2 players, and for a number of years.

Also remember that whilst Melbourne might have been doing it for a few years, they were conveniently ignoring the cap for most of it.'"


Its all relative.Yes they have a higher cap but there wages are also a lot higher.Smith,Slater and Cronk account for well over $2 million of a $5.1 million salary cap and those are figures since the cap breaking scandal.That figure will rise to around $2.7 million if and when Smiths new contract is done.Thats over half of the cap on just 3 players.They also have a minimum wage of $75K to contend with.
I actually agree with you that Sandow and his wages would be insane for Salford but the Melbourne situation is just an example model of how you can utilise your cap and still make it work.

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Quote: JobsForTheWives "I actually agree with you that Sandow and his wages would be insane for Salford but the Melbourne situation is just an example model of how you can utilise your cap and still make it work.'"


And that's my point. I'm not disagreeing with the model, it's pretty much how Leeds also seem to work & it suits them fine. My point was purely that you can't do it with wages that high. Paying out top-end NRL wages and then 2 or 3 more SL high earners is asking for trouble.

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For all we know Salford could be giving him some more from owner that's not on the fee so would make up for more. Who's gonna know this other than the owner and player? Just a thought as he seems to have the cash

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Quote: Airlie-bird "For all we know Salford could be giving him some more from owner that's not on the fee so would make up for more. Who's gonna know this other than the owner and player? Just a thought as he seems to have the cash'"


HMRC for a start

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If Salford do not break the cap next year i will be shocked. The doc as just about said he will, as for the doc could have bigger fish to fry when he buys oldham athletic. We all know he really wanted a football club. If he does buy them maybe salford will be something of a inconvenience.

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He was right in the end:



Quote: rugbyman_1865 "If Salford do not break the cap next year i will be shocked. The doc as just about said he will, as for the doc could have bigger fish to fry when he buys oldham athletic. We all know he really wanted a football club. If he does buy them maybe salford will be something of a inconvenience.'"

You think?

He has enough cash for several rugby teams and a football team, dont underestimate his wealth

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Quote: A unknown superstar "Do people honestly think, players are queuing up to sign for Hull ffs?'"

No .

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Quote: Lostyorkie "Nope that's why Pearson needs to splash the cash to make his actions match his statements.'"

Correct . 2 decent forwards and a winger needed . But don't worry the World Cup will be full of them !!

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