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| Shocking post from the OP. Cannot believe that I wasted part of my life reading it
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| This is very much a transitional season.
I had a few goals I wanted to see us reach. Losing in the Cup and thus failing to beat a SL club in that competition for a fourth year in a row was one failure. Defeating Leeds was one of the targets met.
We can realistically aim for 5th this season and that should give us a great chance of a first play off win for five years. A win over Saints would mean a much improved record over the big four (my definition being Saints, Leeds, Wigan and Warrington). Should we take at least a point at Headingley, The DW or The HJ then we'll have a record of 50% or more over that group. Far better than in recent years.
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“We will not accept a top eight finish as a barometer of supposed success at any point in the future whilst I am the owner of this club.
Thats why you got the Bullet Agar...Adam Pearson wants winners...not useless gits like you.
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| Anything would have been better than the $hite Agar served up over the last 4yrs.
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| Is it my imagination or has marketing slipped at the Club?
How much marketing is done regarding up and coming games?
After beating Leeds for the first time in years, with London up next then rovers at MM weekend, two more positive results from this should be a marketeers dream. I'd hope for a large gate against St Helens on the back of this. On a Sunday of a bank holiday weekend against a top team.
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| yea hopefully we can get back some of the supporters, what crowd should we be looking at?
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| Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "Is it my imagination or has marketing slipped at the Club?
How much marketing is done regarding up and coming games?
After beating Leeds for the first time in years, with London up next then rovers at MM weekend, two more positive results from this should be a marketeers dream. I'd hope for a large gate against St Helens on the back of this. On a Sunday of a bank holiday weekend against a top team.'"
Not sure about this. I get regular promotional emails from the club, but more relevant I guess is communication to lapsed passholders and those disengaged during Agar's tenure or who simply can't afford it. You're right about the Saints game - should be setting our stall out for a good crowd. Important to get a derby win as part of the build up though.
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Not sure about this. I get regular promotional emails from the club, but more relevant I guess is communication to lapsed passholders and those disengaged during Agar's tenure or who simply can't afford it. You're right about the Saints game - should be setting our stall out for a good crowd. Important to get a derby win as part of the build up though.'"
Hence my point earlier in the thread about trying discount periods for buying in advance. If tickets were on sale now for Saints for say £15 for the South and £20 for the East and West at least some fans would take up the offer, in 3 weeks time we potentially could have lost to either London, Rovers or both and that would put some pay on the day fans off.
I'm surprised SKY aren't televising this game, Leeds-Wigan on the same weekend is an understandable TV choice, but Bradford-Castleford?
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| Quote: Mrs Barista "Not sure about this. I get regular promotional emails from the club, but more relevant I guess is communication to lapsed passholders and those disengaged during Agar's tenure or who simply can't afford it. You're right about the Saints game - should be setting our stall out for a good crowd. Important to get a derby win as part of the build up though.'"
The down side of emails is that it is highly likely that those who have left email addresses with the club are more likely to be the season ticket holders and regular attenders.
Its the floating few thousand who need to be attracted back.
To be honest, I dont buy the Agar factor in this. Agar is gone, we have a new coach and a raft of new players playing a better quality product. If anything its affordability, timings or laziness which is the reason.
I think the experiement of going back to Sundays and the pricing policy has had an adverse effect. I'd like to see a mix of Sunday and Friday games. For example play against Yorkshire opposition on Friday nights and anyone else after than Sunday afternoons / bank holidays. This should not impact from a timing point of view for travelling fans.
North stand pricing needs to be addressed and perhaps a loyalty card system for paying on the day home fans. Something on the lines of having a card stamped each time they pay on the day and the fifth game is a tenner, or something on those lines.
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| Quote: fc baldy "Anything would have been better than the $hite Agar served up over the last 4yrs.'"
Why use a Mrs B monologue when a couple of words off Baldy will do
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| I don't think the low crowds are due to the economy. Saints crowds are phenomenally up and I would imagine the financial restraints are similar over in Scouseland. Other large SL clubs don't seem to be experiencing the drop-off in gates we have.
Money's tight, but people have a finite amount of recreational money. I think it's more down to the fact that the disillusioned leavers are spending it elsewhere and will have to be persuaded to give up their new persuits. t think the Sunday switch hasn't helped families, and better marketing will help. UllFc's excellent idea of buying tickets cheaper a week in advance has definite mileage.
But I think the only way we'll see crowds increase is in time, after consistency on the pitch and position in the table. A real shame about our CC exit - that could have hurried things. I only hope Pearson's timescales are realistic enough from a business perspective to keep it worth his while for crowds to remain at this level until at least next season.
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| Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "Is it my imagination or has marketing slipped at the Club?
How much marketing is done regarding up and coming games?
After beating Leeds for the first time in years, with London up next then rovers at MM weekend, two more positive results from this should be a marketeers dream. I'd hope for a large gate against St Helens on the back of this. On a Sunday of a bank holiday weekend against a top team.'"
I've been thinking the same. i guess that rule was the man behind the improvement in marketing and clarke isn't a marketeer. Would pay the club to bring someone in on 30 grand to do it properly
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| Quote: WormInHand "I don't think the low crowds are due to the economy. Saints crowds are phenomenally up and I would imagine the financial restraints are similar over in Scouseland. Other large SL clubs don't seem to be experiencing the drop-off in gates we have. '"
I'm not surprised Saints crowds are up, they were playing in Widnes last year!
If you look at crowd patterns across sport increases (and decreases) in attendance lag behind real time performance on the field so, providing that Hull maintain their improvement this year, you probably won't get any noticeable increases until next year. Hull's attendance held up better than could be probably be expected over the previous 3 years given the team's results so I'm not expecting an instantaneous surge in support now - though it would be good if it happened.
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| Quote: Erik the not red "I'm not surprised Saints crowds are up, they were playing in Widnes last year!
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Poor for some years at Knowsley Road, though.
Quote: Erik the not red "If you look at crowd patterns across sport increases (and decreases) in attendance lag behind real time performance on the field so, providing that Hull maintain their improvement this year, you probably won't get any noticeable increases until next year. Hull's attendance held up better than could be probably be expected over the previous 3 years given the team's results so I'm not expecting an instantaneous surge in support now - though it would be good if it happened.'"
I agree. That was the point I was making too . Hope Pearson has these same expectations, he seems to be a bit perturbed it isn't happening quicker. Challenge Cup would've been a great catalyst - just hope Pearson hasn't got some finite deadlines in mind.
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| Quote: WormInHand "Poor for some years at Knowsley Road, though.
I agree. That was the point I was making too
I'd like a Wembley win as much as every other Hull fan, but going out the CC this year will bring us some benefits. We wouldn't have looked so fresh and dominant against Leeds this week had we had a tough CC tie last week for example.
Next year when we get the squad more balanced we can go all out to win both trophies!
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| Quote: UllFC "I'd like a Wembley win as much as every other Hull fan, but going out the CC this year will bring us some benefits. We wouldn't have looked so fresh and dominant against Leeds this week had we had a tough CC tie last week for example.
Next year when we get the squad more balanced we can go all out to win both trophies!'"
3 with the league
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