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Quote: Old_Faithful_IAKW "Did we collapse? Or did Saints just play well?

Ganson got 2 big calls wrong in the critical period of the game, if Washbrook or Sharp get the call then we'd have had a really good attempt a drop goal. It wasn't 50/50, only Steveo and Eddie thought it wasn't which says it all
It was both mate, that's why I said your team collapsing and Saints playing a lot better.

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Quote: Dave Lister "Eloquence at it's peak on the Hull FC forum as usual.'"

If you don't like it, leave.

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Quote: Old_Faithful_IAKW "Bye-bye then.'"


Wonder where he's got the impression of Hull fans he seems to hold from?

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Also the Jamie Foster knock on.

Whiting got the ball back in goal, drop out given.

Got decisions wrong for both teams, but forward passes are hard to judge, the knock on decisions for Sharp and Foster were obvious and no excuse for missing them, Ref, touch judges and VR.

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Quote: Kosh "Leave it out.'"


It was, watch it again. Just to point out, I really don't care whether it was or wasn't. Ganson gave you plenty as well today, to say you were robbed, Ganson is a cheat etc, is quite cringeworthy.

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Quote: Dave K. "Also the Jamie Foster knock on.

Whiting got the ball back in goal, drop out given.

Got decisions wrong for both teams, but forward passes are hard to judge, the knock on decisions for Sharp and Foster were obvious and no excuse for missing them, Ref, touch judges and VR.'"


Whiting grounded it at first instance. Imagine if he was trying to score a try - it would have been given.

I thought there was a strange decision in the first half, I think it involved Whiting once more - if you catch the ball while stood on the touchline, isn't the ball out of play? He certainally didn't carry it onto the line.

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Quote: Dave Lister "Whiting grounded it at first instance. Imagine if he was trying to score a try - it would have been given.

I thought there was a strange decision in the first half, I think it involved Whiting once more - if you catch the ball while stood on the touchline, isn't the ball out of play? He certainally didn't carry it onto the line.'"

I thought that but is the rule only when the ball doesnt bounce? not sure tbh

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Quote: Dave Lister "It was, watch it again. Just to point out, I really don't care whether it was or wasn't. Ganson gave you plenty as well today, to say you were robbed, Ganson is a cheat etc, is quite cringeworthy.'"

Now I see why you deal in Fantasy on one of these forums, the game changing decision was wrong stop being such a tit and get back to watching the quins and dealing in fantasy because you are totally clueless when it comes to real rugby.

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Quote: Dave Lister "It was, watch it again. Just to point out, I really don't care whether it was or wasn't. Ganson gave you plenty as well today, to say you were robbed, Ganson is a cheat etc, is quite cringeworthy.'"

I've not suggested Ganson is a cheat, and technically we were robbed as the penalty that earned a draw for Saints should never have been given. Plenty of mistakes of our own contributed to us being in the position to [ibe[/i robbed though I agree.

As for the pass I'll look again later but I didn't see anything wrong with it first time or on the replays, and it wasn't mentioned by anyone on the SKY team that I recall. I haven't seen the first half yet (working today) so can't comment on the other tries.

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All sounds very bitter to me. Instead of looking at why we collapsed we are trying to pin it on one or two refs decisions.

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Quote: The Mighty Fc "I thought that but is the rule only when the ball doesnt bounce? not sure tbh'"


If Whiting caught it and was stood out of play, it would be a scrum to Hull? Surely the same applies on the line? I'm not sure either.

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Ganson was awful today. Whiting was over the line, no way a drop out. Washy went for the ball, no way a penalty. 2 decisions which changed the scoreline.

Said it before the game, how he can persistently ref Saints games is beyond me.

Saying that, to lose our 18 point lead was poor and we should have never been in that situation in the first place.

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Quote: Kosh "I've not suggested Ganson is a cheat, and technically we were robbed as the penalty that earned a draw for Saints should never have been given. Plenty of mistakes of our own contributed to us being in the position to [ibe[/i robbed though I agree.

As for the pass I'll look again later but I didn't see anything wrong with it first time or on the replays, and it wasn't mentioned by anyone on the SKY team that I recall. I haven't seen the first half yet (working today) so can't comment on the other tries.'"


It was more a general observation, not your comments. Like I said on another thread, Ganson would have given a penalty for offside to give St Helens a draw anyway.

If we start relying on the Sky team to define forward passes, we might as well give up. I actually rewound it and had another look, as I found it amazing nobody picked up on it.

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Quote: Dave K. "Also the Jamie Foster knock on.

Whiting got the ball back in goal, drop out given.

Got decisions wrong for both teams, but forward passes are hard to judge, the knock on decisions for Sharp and Foster were obvious and no excuse for missing them, Ref, touch judges and VR.'"

The Foster decision I'm not sure about TBH. He propels it forward onto Horne but at no time does the ball leave his hand. It doesn't come loose until Horne pushes it the other way. I can see why the decision was given the way it was.

Whiting grounded the ball while collecting it. Would have been enough to give a try so no problem with that one either.

The killer was the Washbrook penalty. Never a pen in a million years.

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Quote: hullbg "All sounds very bitter to me. Instead of looking at why we collapsed we are trying to pin it on one or two refs decisions.'"

We made far too many mistakes, especially among the back three. We shouldn't have been just two points ahead at that stage of the game. No argument. Doesn't change the fact that the penalty that levelled the scores wasn't a penalty.

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