Indeed, we have the players.................

Not to win trophies we don't imo. To compete for the top four, yes with the right coach. We would need to add addition players to win things.

can't disagree Paul

but it looks like our recruitment is going to be as disappointing as ever in the important positions

I am happy with McKinnon. Not seen enough of Heremaia to comment but we need another hooker imo, too much to ask Danny to play 80 mins week in/out. I'm pleased we got Gleeson.

The crux will come with what we do with Long/scrum half.

Gleeson has a lot to prove, we know he has the ability, has he got the desire.

We cannot keep Long and Horne, may as well play the game with one hand tied behind our back all the time.

We cannot keep Radford and Dowes and Lauaki(sp).

We cannot keep Fubar

but we will

I can see us going into next season with Long unfortunately (and him playing < 10 games).

I would be happy resigning Horne for one more year, but Long doesn't justify another year IMO. Having said that, i expect it is difficult signing a decent scrum-half at the moment

I got the impression from a HDM article recently that Westerman would be out LF next season which i am looking forward to. perhaps that will make up some of the shortfall in our attacking prowess

Long won't re sign if Seymour has.

That is a big IF, and Seymour isn't all that, is he?

Which was my original point. You don't need a world class player at hooker (or any position for that matter) if you have good quality players in the important areas

He's a good player, he'll go very well in sl.

Indeed, 6,7 and 13 are much more important, if only FC could see that.

One man never makes a team but hooker is as an important position as scrum half these days and with the right man at hooker you can build a team around them.

Why do you mention Seymour - is this a rumour doing the rounds?

on another thread, "TheBrother" says we've signed him.

They're both important but a top class player in one position can make up for an average one in the other