TBH I think we'll do well to finish 6th or above. No shame in that considering where we've come from either.

As a fully paid up Agar out supporter, I feel that to say the reaction has been after one defeat to Wigan is a short sighted. My opinion is that the guy is nowhere near the mark coaching wise and I dont wish to see another season go down the tubes.

Yes we have won 4 out of 6, last year we won 5 out of 6 but the same flaws are still there
1) We dont seem to be able to adapt a game plan to counter opposition strengths
2) We tinker with a winning team Tansey-Whiting, Hall-Whiting, Moa-Radford, Turner-Long
3) Tickle and Radford remain unquenchable penalty machines
4) We become over confident prior to the Crusaders game ( did they forget the last 2 seasons so quickly)
5) We get out enthused in a potential table topper (one again have we forgot the last 2 season already)

I dont accept it's the players as they are coached all week by Agar, ok lets forget about the last two seasons if it makes his record look better but we have still been out enthused in 33% of this seasons games and I am not confident that he can change our gameplan once the other coaches have sussed us out and the dry weather negates our pack somewhat.

Think its going to be hardest season yet to judge any coaches at least for a quite a few more rounds yet. Should Saints, Leeds, Bradford sack there coaches? They have arguably the same strength of squad as us but below us. At this point I would havent have expected any more points than we have even if the games they came from isnt what I expected. Think we can expect the top 5 spots to change weekly. Going to be a strange season.

Tickle seems to have improved in this area this season and his form is spot on

I refuse to take sides in this spat as I think its too early to sack anyone.

I would however question the wisdom of one glaring error of judgement and I have seen plenty more in the last two seasons.

I suspect that one Shaun Long is still carrying his hamstring injury, why was he risked?

I am not having a go, but Rich does seem to leave himself open to not only fans, the media and the board to use things like this. Whilst the pressure to play high earning and capable players like Long are great, the need for doing it right has to come first.

Wouldn`t surprise me if Long didn`t actually pressure Agar into playing him in this game.Hamstring or not.

Having seen Bradford last week when they beat us and again last night on tv when they were at Wire, I can honestly say that I think you'll beat them well.
There were game changing moments at Wigan when had things gone Hull's way the game could have been a lot different.
Had that pass stuck at 12-6.
If three Hull players had not allowed the ball to bounce which gave Roberts the opportunity to score.
Two penalties which didn't find touch.
All mistakes which I'm sure won't be repeated against Bradford nor perhaps for the rest of the season.
You have a good pack, good halves and Agar needs to settle his backs.

Never realised so many of Hull's medical staff were members of this forum.

He could of played against cas so i guess he was perfectly fit to play against wigan,id say simon pope has more of a say if hes fit to play then agar does,if he wasnt fit he wouldnt of been risked simple as.

Thanks for the nice sentiment, fella, but one of our problems is that we don't have a strong enough set of backs to settle as we've (quite rightly) binned off Raynor and chosen not to replace him. 2 centres (one 22 and one 19) playing on the wing are not going to get us challenging the top 4 IMO. Still very pleased with our pack and happy with our halves though.

your in the top 8 , you beat saints in there own back yard , you have beaten huddersfield at home , and you want to sack the coach . what is super league coming too at all , teams will lose games , they might get hammered they might just get beat , other teams includin you's will lose more games so give the coach a break . its still to early in the season

Isnt the biggest worry recruitment for 2011 ? If we keep agar then he can start recruitment for next season but if we bring in a new manager then he will want his own players and surely that would have to be done this season so he can get the possible players this also counts for the extensions .

We have a winner!!!!

after we missed that pass to draw level it did all go a bit Thorman didnt it