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| watching the game tonight, ive only noticed one long kick from both team NOT go to the oppositions full back, useless the lot of them eh?
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| Quote: Kosh "No need to get personal.
The same way you keep mentioning Horney is as good as any top 4 ,Your reference to the top 4 is comical, you are basing your argument not on watching Horney every week for the last 2/3 years but by some stats posted on here which do not even include defence (an area of weakness for Horney), so they only give a glimpse of what is happening.
Very few people who go every week would consider Horney is in the top 4 numbers 6s in this country any more...and the ones who do I fear are basing this on sentimentality and not performance!
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| Quote: Marfa Manu "Not really fun, some people really are clueless, take Chases stats in an average team like Cas then imagine what they would be in a team like ours with our forwards, not hard to figure out is it!'"
Very true, some people are.
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| so what does everyone think about Horney,is he any good
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| Quote: Marfa Manu "No goalposts move, Cas do not have the forwards, if you posted the full post instead of lifting little bits to suit your point you would see I made it clear, imagine how good he would be with a set of forwards like ours
Chase is a luxury and treated as such by Matterson. Other players get frustrated but the coach tells them not to pay out of dummy half etc, "just give it it Rangi".
He would not be afforded that luxury at a top club.
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| Quote: Kosh "icon_mrgreen.gif
This is fun.
It is for me she ignores me now
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| Quote: Goochie "Appearances
Going by those stats we have a better 6 than Wigan. Not too shabby at all considering the team he's been playing in..
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| Quote: Kosh "When that one player not only plays for a top 4 side but has also appeared for England it certainly [idoes[/i blow the argument that Horne isn't good enough for a top 4 team out of the water. Unless you're suggesting that Brown isn't good enough for a top 4 side either?'"
Whilst I'm more of a similar opinion to you on Horne, I really don't think it's sound ground to use selection by McBanana as evidence of a player's quality, be it just for an objective comparison or not.
EDIT, just realised Smith also picked him at 6, as you were.
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| Quote: carl_spackler "Going by those stats we have a better 6 than Wigan. Not too shabby at all considering the team he's been playing in..'"
It stands to reason his stats are not too shaby he is being asked by Agar to do more but the end result is poor!...also there are no defensive stats an area which he is poor.
His stats are also similar to last seasons yet most thought he was poor last season yet seem to believe he has improved this year ?
So if he had an organising 7 how do you reckon those stats would read then better than Wigans and matching all the top 4s?
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| Quote: Marfa Manu "The same way you keep mentioning Horney is as good as any top 4 ,Your reference to the top 4 is comical, you are basing your argument not on watching Horney every week for the last 2/3 years but by some stats posted on here which do not even include defence (an area of weakness for Horney), so they only give a glimpse of what is happening.
Very few people who go every week would consider Horney is in the top 4 numbers 6s in this country any more...and the ones who do I fear are basing this on sentimentality and not performance!'"
You could do with reading posts more carefully before replying. I haven't said that Horne is as good as any in the top 4 at all. I certainly haven't said that he's in the top 4 stand offs in the country. I've said that his [istats[/i are as good as Brown's, who is undeniably a stand off in a top 4 side. And you want to compare defences? Here ya go...
Horne
Tackles: 286
Marker Tackles: 35
Missed Tackles: 40
Errors: 30
Penalies: 4
Chase
Tackles: 207
Marker Tackles: 17
Missed Tackles: 57
Errors: 30
Penalties: 10
So Chase makes many fewer tackles, misses more of them, makes the same number of errors, and gives away more than twice as many penalties.
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| Quote: Kosh "You could do with reading posts more carefully before replying. I haven't said that Horne is as good as any in the top 4 at all. I certainly haven't said that he's in the top 4 stand offs in the country. I've said that his [istats[/i are as good as Brown's, who is undeniably a stand off in a top 4 side. And you want to compare defences? Here ya go...
Horne
Tackles: 286
Marker Tackles: 35
Missed Tackles: 40
Errors: 30
Penalies: 4
Chase
Tackles: 207
Marker Tackles: 17
Missed Tackles: 57
Errors: 30
Penalties: 10
So Chase makes many fewer tackles, misses more of them, makes the same number of errors, and gives away more than twice as many penalties.
I can live with Chase's defence as he offers so much more to make up for it
Try your man Brown with the defensive stats
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| Quote: number 6 "watching the game tonight, ive only noticed one long kick from both team NOT go to the oppositions full back, useless the lot of them eh?'"
Or the full backs and wingers have excellent positioning, but that rearly gets a mention.
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| Quote: Marfa Manu "I can live with Chase's defence as he offers so much more to make up for it
Try your man Brown with the defensive stats
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| Quote: Sheldon "Or the full backs and wingers have excellent positioning, but that rearly gets a mention.'" Not really difficult when you drop 3 back though, is it?
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