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| Quote: Smiggs "Based on the last 18 months the 5 match winning run was a blip. Fortunately we're through it now and we can sleep soundly in our beds knowing that we are back to our more usual selves.'"
We will finish top 8 this season there is no doubting that , last season was poor for so many reasons , mainly caused by sharp , problems that for me we are overcoming , it will take time to completely sort the club but from what i have seen , on balance we are much stronger than we were
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| we had more chance of winning the challange cup then the superleague in my opinion. but on friday the players didn't seen to want to play. it's not agar thats on the field. he may have made some dogey decisions but it's down to the players on the field. and a new coach will not change that.
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| Quote: Chris28 "I'm not normally one to start telling tales but I heard yesterday that Thacks was suspended for 2 games for swearing at someone when subbed in the Cas game.
On another issue, the BBC has us down as using 7 interchanges yesterday. Now I know they aren't very accurate at times but surely we used all 12?'"
What do they think it is the boy scouts ffs, tbh shame others can't show Thacks desire he was obviously venting his anger about getting little game time again, maybe if the coach got the interchange right it wouldn't have vome to this
Also heard ben cooper had a warning for constantly swearing at the players for gods sake it's a mans game
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| Quote: The Brother "What do they think it is the boy scouts ffs, tbh shame others can't show Thacks desire he was obviously venting his anger about getting little game time again, maybe if the coach got the interchange right it wouldn't have vome to this
Also heard ben cooper had a warning for constantly swearing at the players for gods sake it's a mans game'"
Well said....who does agar think he is...Phil "im the manager" Brown.
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| Quote: fat ash "We will finish top 8 this season there is no doubting that , last season was poor for so many reasons , mainly caused by sharp , problems that for me we are overcoming , it will take time to completely sort the club but from what i have seen , on balance we are much stronger than we were'"
I'm glad you think so, however I have seen nothing to believe we are.
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| Quote: Kosh "He also presided over our exit from the CC at the first hurdle in a game against a side that couldn't BUY a win since the first week of the season.
Given how much potential revenue that has put beyond our reach, I'd say the balance is definitely on the debit side.'" So Leeds/Bradford and other teams that went out of the C/C are sacking they Coaches then ????
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| Quote: kt170496 "So Leeds/Bradford and other teams that when out of the C/C are sacking they Coaches then ????'"
They might anyway as they are worse than us.....its a results and revenue buissness and that is 1 result and revenue down.
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| Quote: fc baldy "And the no $hit $herlock award has a early winner this week.'"
Are you still sulking?
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| Quote: The Brother "What do they think it is the boy scouts ffs, tbh shame others can't show Thacks desire he was obviously venting his anger about getting little game time again, maybe if the coach got the interchange right it wouldn't have vome to this
Also heard ben cooper had a warning for constantly swearing at the players for gods sake it's a mans game'" Glad they wasn't around when I played I would have never got on the field .. I can remember telling the RSM to F--- his Tactics
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| Quote: fc baldy "They might anyway as they are worse than us.....its a results and revenue buissness and that is 1 result and revenue down.'" Its a game there are winners and looser ..We got beat ..the good points for the fans we have no more outlays ps I got my tickets for the Saints game this morning
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| I don't get this idea of a cheap coach. Surely the board have a heard of the term 'Speculate to Accumulate'? We spend the money on a decent coach and he repays us by getting us to the playoff and further into the cups etc. Hopefully ending with final appearences. This in turn increases the gates and the profit.
But our board pay for dross and we are all surprised with crap tactics and performances!
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| Quote: ComeOnYouUll "Are you still sulking?'"
About what?
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| Quote: kt170496 "So Leeds/Bradford and other teams that went out of the C/C are sacking they Coaches then ????'"
Go take a look at the Bradford forum.
Leeds went out to the current CC holders and second best team in SL for the past two seasons. They also have a realistic chance of winning SL this season. Neither of which apply to Hull FC.
And for he record, I haven't asked for the coach to be sacked.
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| Quote: PAUL M "The players seem to be the biggest problem right now, god knows why the attitude of them is so wrong but regardless of tactics we could still show desire and work ethic.'"
No, the coach is the problem. If players are playing badly, its up to the coach to drop them and give someone else a go. After Cas he dropped Thackray (and now it sounds like that wasn't even performance based) and replaced him with King (who hasn't been as good imo). After Quins he drops Houghton and uses Lee as the second hooker. Why? Houghton may not be playing out of his skin but he has been useful. Lee looked poor at hooker yesterday, he shouldn't have been moved away from the back row. This is a rubbish attempt at trying to get our form back on track.
Quote: PAUL M "Folkes would be silly tbh as he would cost more money for possibly the same gameplan but at least he would be a fresh man.
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Folkes sounds like he would be good. It doesn't matter if he uses a forwards game too. In fact its probably better that way. The problem is we aren't doing it well at all at the moment, not the fact we are playing that way.
I actually think that we could get Kearney as our coach if we tried hard enough. McLennan and Anderson both came here from the same role as Kearney has with NZ at the moment, and we have already convinced Kearney to come to our club once before. I think he may relish the chance of been a head coach instead of assistant like he is atm for Melbourne.
While I do think that we should go to the NRL for our new coach, I feel there are a couple of realistic options here too.
I think Matterson is proving that he would be a good fit for us. He is getting a lot from what is a workman like pack (like ours is) yet is still allowing his backs creativity and they are getting tons of points. I feel if a back 5 of Tony, Calderwood, Hall, Yeaman and Raynor would get tons of points under his system. Richard Horne would love it too. I think we could easily get Matterson.
Less realistically would be Morgan. He has moulded a team that wants to play for each other and alwaus seem to show 100% effort. He also seems to be getting the best out of the players he has. I think he could be a realistic approach as he seems ambitious. But obviously the fact that he coaches Rovers would obviously be a massive problem in getting him to.
Agar needs to go, and needs to go asap. I have said all season that I've not been impressed with the tactics etc, and he tooks us backwards last season. As usual though, we will do what 95% of sporting clubs do and wait until it is too late. The likes of Alex Ferguson (who start off crap but eventually turn out good for a club) are the exception, not the rule and I hope we realise this soon. I predict a total of 80 points conceeded this weekend, I'm really not looking forward to the two games.
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| Quote: The Key "No, the coach is the problem. If players are playing badly, its up to the coach to drop them and give someone else a go. After Cas he dropped Thackray (and now it sounds like that wasn't even performance based) and replaced him with King (who hasn't been as good imo). After Quins he drops Houghton and uses Lee as the second hooker. Why? Houghton may not be playing out of his skin but he has been useful. Lee looked poor at hooker yesterday, he shouldn't have been moved away from the back row. This is a rubbish attempt at trying to get our form back on track.
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Totally disagree. I thought Lee looked good at Hooker on Sunday and Houghton has been poor so far this year. Most of the players on Sunday quite simply didn't turn up, Is Agar meant to drop all of them? I'm not his biggest fan but the players need to start taking some responsibility. Our tactics haven't been hugely different in all the games so far this season its been the application of the players and the effort levels that have seen us have poor performances. Not that I think our tactics are great or anything but they can work if everyone is giving 100%
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