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| In recent times Myler has been trying to recruit players without us even having a coach confirmed for 2025. Made it harder to attract players when they don't know who they will even be playing for.
Now Cartwright has officially been appointed, and seems a very well respected coach, signing better players going forward may prove to be slightly easier. We still have to be realistic about the level we're at and the calibre of player we can attract, but I think now we have somebody in place for 2025 that conversations with players and agents will be smoother.
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| We also have to take into account building a squad - if the money is there are 3 players @50k a season for 1 year a better option then 3 players @40k a season for 2 years better options ? On the face with older players it’s clear 1 year deals better but for get the most out of cap the 2nd could be better if you have the money to pay off older types (ala rovers have with a few of their players) we arnt going to know until the end of the season the full signings even if we have signed players now why would the club announce everything- i just feel we wouldn’t of got Cartwright if we said that’s your fill pal - turn them into world beaters but you can’t add your own players. It’s frustrating at the moment but let’s stick with it (the players signed for me are just a bit of meat on the bones for the squad and we must have a fair bit of cap along with a few quota spaces to play with,
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| I'm not sure we have that much cap space unless some contracted players leave. Currently, from this year's squad we have
Hoy
Brown x 2
Scott
gone/going
Houghton
Carlos
Likely going
Then we have players who we don't know what is happening
Mitch
Cator
Balmforth
Signed/reportedly signed
Asiata
Hardaker
Holmes
Borough
Satae
So unless we are offloading the likes of tindal, okunbor, Pele and Sao and maybe walker, it doesn't look like there is much in the pot to me
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "I'm not sure we have that much cap space unless some contracted players leave. Currently, from this year's squad we have
Hoy
Brown x 2
Scott
gone/going
Houghton
Carlos
Likely going
Then we have players who we don't know what is happening
Mitch
Cator
Balmforth
Signed/reportedly signed
Asiata
Hardaker
Holmes
Borough
Satae
So unless we are offloading the likes of tindal, okunbor, Pele and Sao and maybe walker, it doesn't look like there is much in the pot to me'"
I forgot to add Abdul in.
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "I'm not sure we have that much cap space unless some contracted players leave. Currently, from this year's squad we have
Hoy
Brown x 2
Scott
gone/going
Houghton
Carlos
Likely going
Then we have players who we don't know what is happening
Mitch
Cator
Balmforth
Signed/reportedly signed
Asiata
Hardaker
Holmes
Borough
Satae
So unless we are offloading the likes of tindal, okunbor, Pele and Sao and maybe walker, it doesn't look like there is much in the pot to me'"
Suppose it depends on what inflated salaries those leaving were on. Pearson said we were at cap for this season so you'd assume we're paying overs for those leaving
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| I’m assuming we arent actually at fully cap/ theres dispensations we can use t maximise cap.
Hoy- Moy replacing internally currently. Frees up quota and cap space for more important positions.
nu brown - Abdul in terms of cap space he will be considerably less and is a better half back. so frees up quota spot.
Jack Brown - Aydin, reckon brown has/had more potential but from what I’ve seen Adyin is more reliable, aggressive and will be cheaper on the cap next year IMO
Scott - Hardaker on more but less than scott wants/ wakey are paying. dreadful bloke better player
Houghton - TBC but Houghton has sadly had his day. Will be more on the cap. Will be a quota player.
Carlos - Asiata is probably his like for like. Will be on pitch more which says it all. 150k on cap, will likely be about the same as Carlos in all reality.
Other signings
Satae better player than most but work rate is poor. Will be a fair chunk on cap but as he wanted to come back, we might have got a reduced rate.
Holmes is in his twilight years. Won’t break that bank and adds a bit of squad depth. Better than we have and non quota
Borough won’t be on peanuts but also won’t be expensive. Gives us extra depth and hopefully we keep Balmforth giving us 4 hookers (inc M.Smith).
Then 1 quota spot free to assign without speculating on Ligi or Okunbor.
Overall Man for Man we’ll be better. If we ace our 2 last quota spots it suddenly turns us into a side battling for the 6 next year
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "I'm not sure we have that much cap space unless some contracted players leave. Currently, from this year's squad we have
Hoy
Brown x 2
Scott
gone/going
Houghton
Carlos
Likely going
Then we have players who we don't know what is happening
Mitch
Cator
Balmforth
Signed/reportedly signed
Asiata
Hardaker
Holmes
Borough
Satae
So unless we are offloading the likes of tindal, okunbor, Pele and Sao and maybe walker, it doesn't look like there is much in the pot to me'"
Carlos will be on a huge wedge, as well Sao. Hoy and N Brown too. Briscoe cheaper than Darnell. Houghton won’t be cheap.
I’m confident we’ll have a good amount to spend.
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| Quote: Jake the Peg "I'm not sure we have that much cap space unless some contracted players leave. Currently, from this year's squad we have
Hoy
Brown x 2
Scott
gone/going
Houghton
Carlos
Likely going
Then we have players who we don't know what is happening
Mitch
Cator
Balmforth
Signed/reportedly signed
Asiata
Hardaker
Holmes
Borough
Satae
So unless we are offloading the likes of tindal, okunbor, Pele and Sao and maybe walker, it doesn't look like there is much in the pot to me'"
Cator wont be at Hull Next season , He's already negotiating with another club is what I've Heard .
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| Quote: B0NES "Cator wont be at Hull Next season , He's already negotiating with another club is what I've Heard .'"
Salford I’ve heard
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| New deals for Harvey Barron, Zach Jebson and Matty Laidlaw.
Balmforth conspicuous by his absence there. I know there been plenty of talk about this but there must be some reason why three coaches have been reluctant to give him regular game time in Super League. Not been linked to a permanent move away from the club as far as I'm aware though?
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| Quote: B0NES "Cator wont be at Hull Next season , He's already negotiating with another club is what I've Heard .'"
I think we're well covered for Cator if/when he leaves. Asiata will be 1st choice 13 and we still have Fash, Aydin plus Armstrong.
Unless he's our first choice 9 for next year
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| Quote: ComeOnYouUll "New deals for Harvey Barron, Zach Jebson and Matty Laidlaw.
Balmforth conspicuous by his absence there. I know there been plenty of talk about this but there must be some reason why three coaches have been reluctant to give him regular game time in Super League. Not been linked to a permanent move away from the club as far as I'm aware though?'"
I'm surprised we've not renewed Hodgson yet. Can't let both him and Balmforth go surely?
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| Quote: ComeOnYouUll "New deals for Harvey Barron, Zach Jebson and Matty Laidlaw.
Balmforth conspicuous by his absence there. I know there been plenty of talk about this but there must be some reason why three coaches have been reluctant to give him regular game time in Super League. Not been linked to a permanent move away from the club as far as I'm aware though?'"
Wouldnt have given a deal for Laidlaw.Cant see him making a S/L player
I dont know anything about Balmforth or whether he is outspoken but its quite evident that he wont get a chance of a game or run of games whilst this coach is here.
Just dont get it as even Grix keeps saying he has what we are misssing at Dummy half yet continues to play Houghton when he clearly slows down our attack.
Cant see him here next season and some S/L team will develop his attacking talent
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| Quote: bonaire "Wouldnt have given a deal for Laidlaw.Cant see him making a S/L player
I dont know anything about Balmforth or whether he is outspoken but its quite evident that he wont get a chance of a game or run of games whilst this coach is here.
Just dont get it as even Grix keeps saying he has what we are misssing at Dummy half yet continues to play Houghton when he clearly slows down our attack.
Cant see him here next season and some S/L team will develop his attacking talent'"
It's not a new deal as such, all 3 have had 1 year extensions triggered in their contracts for next year.
Hooker is a mess this year, Houghton is once again being flogged to death, Smith gets 20mins if he's lucky and the 2 young lads can't get a look in, it's baffling.
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| Quote: bonaire "Wouldnt have given a deal for Laidlaw.Cant see him making a S/L player
I dont know anything about Balmforth or whether he is outspoken but its quite evident that he wont get a chance of a game or run of games whilst this coach is here.
Just dont get it as even Grix keeps saying he has what we are misssing at Dummy half yet continues to play Houghton when he clearly slows down our attack.
Cant see him here next season and some S/L team will develop his attacking talent'"
I tend to agree about Laidlaw. Never really stood out for me.
I just find it odd that no decision seems to have been made on Denive's future nor has there been any media talk about him moving elsewhere. I guess we'll see how he goes with his latest loan move. I wonder if Swinton will play him at hooker as I don't think Newcastle did.
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