Seems that way at times.

It helps if the passer makes something of an effort to get it to his team mate's hands. When Westerman was criticised for his knock on at the end of last night's game, Waldorf & Statler reckoned it was meant for the winger, if so, it would either have ended up on his bootlaces or 2 metres infield from him. it was a crap pass, simple as

Lets face it, last night we could have played with a fur covered ball and issued velcro gloves to our players and we still would have managed to drop the ball.

i see what your saying and i know we tried but we failed miserably i just think if we didn't come out with the stories and start saying we have got this and that then we might of pulled a signing off for a 7 players don't like unrest and that's what fc did when these articles kept appearing saying where in talks to sign rangi and paea and prince until they sign on the dotted line they should keep shut and in terms of 7's out there im sure there is somewhat alot better then we have atm who we could get they is so many in the nrl who are sat in reserve teams or in the stands who we could get but we want cronk and prince who are never going to happen.

We're are all these halfs in the NRL?

Is gentle reading off agar's scripts. His statements are remarkably similar.!

atleast every team in the nrl have a good few younger halves we dont need to go for a big name just give someone a chance to shine i know there is the issue with visas and im sure they is a few that have had a 1st grade game

have you seen what these younger halves can earn in the NRL without even being first choice?? why would they pass up good money in oz to come here?

Pity your trolling never deviates from its usual level of crapness

Thanks,I'd hate to let you down.!

Gentle is under pressure this season and i'm sure he realises that. Not sure saying he will be dropping players help though. He doesn't have that many to bring in and he will need to keep all his players on side. As fans we need to keep some perspective, as bad as Saturday was it's a long season and nothing is lost. We are missing a top half we know that but it wasn't due to a lack of ambition. Players need time to settle and Arundel needs to be given a chance as does Galea.

Gentle said when he came in he wanted to bring our best and worst performances closer together, he hasn't done that as yet. If we beat Cas and play well we will be told we owed the fans that. My issue with that is we shouldn't need to be owed a performance, we shouldn't need to be bouncing back from poor displays.

I still fancy us for top 6 but we need to start showing some improvement, especially mentally. We seem to be imploding too often and start playing dumb rugby.

Look at the league table when we've played 9 games , third of the season.

If you look at previous tables from Round 9 then nothing much ever changes. Barely does one team come from 11th and make it to 5th etc

FACT is if at Easter we are 8th then best we can hope for is about 7th ish

We in fact are worse than last year as my earlier post shows. There will be no charge from 9th to 4th and a play off GF appearance. Most likely an unlucky loss away to Bulls in CC Round 2. Promises of better to come in Play offs etc etc blah blah blah

Gentle by name Gentle by nature / Cullen / Gentle

Wire were the big team going NOWHERE until Tony Smith turned up and then they win as many CCs in 4 years, as we have in 148 years !

The COACH is the ONLY factor in success - wise up and watch AP fire Peter Gentle IF we haven't put a run together very fast starting with winning the next 3 on the trot to keep his job , and our spirits up.

I am not doom and gloom just realistic , I can't wait for AP to sign a WORLD CLASS proven head coach ! Then we have every chance and without a 7 for this season

Where are you going to get a world class head coach from?

That's why you're not the Chairman or owner !

AP will find a way - in Adam I Trust

Why would you trust him now?

Which coaches are "world class"?