He is now injured again, he is not 20 years old he is in his 30s. Saints would not give him a 2 year contract because of his increasing injury problems, yet Agar did and he came off on Friday injured, do you see a trend developing here

Would it tho', he will be unlucky this year with his achiles, last year his elbow the year before his jaw etc... The older you get the more likely your going to miss games and the longer the recovery will take. I'll have a bet he misses a minimum of 8 games this year.. If its down to luck you must fancy your chances.

Well I presume Richard Agar. Who would you have played at full back in Cardiff? Jordan Tansey? And who would you have played at centre? Shaun Berrigan?

Our right hand edge defence is constantly exposed [ino matter who plays in the centre or wing positions[/i. It's down to the structures (or lack thereof) put in place by the coach. Line speed and backing up are also poor. We have no dummy runners. These are all coaching issues and may not be attributed to lack of halfbacks or injuries.

Fippin 'eck only a minimum of 8 your being generous ...I reckon he will only just manage 50% if we are lucky

What could he possibly be fed up with? Not your mate Rich, surely?

Lets face the facts, Longy dosnt want to be here, he is not happy hear, he is not happy with the coaching, game plans (or lack of), any oportunity (injury breaks) he is back in St Helens, what does that tell u,

I think your right fwiw, i can see a lot of strains and tweaks coming on amongst the players soon enough
They feel like many on here too

You tell us surely you was in the changing room at h/time again

No kidding

The way he's playing at the moment I'm not sure he'd be any loss if he did go.

It'd be a bonus, start a new pairing with Williams