all of the better teams in SL have pace and/or power in the backs and 2nd row. We have neither and none of the players currently signed up will change that

Why don't we wait until recruitment is completed before it's totally rubbished?

There's a lot to unpack and clear up after years of mismanagement.

Looks like there'll be investment in support staff as well which is badly needed and vitally important.

An improvement on the squad and coaching is all we can ask for at the minute. I’m expecting a couple of decent signings along with the current signings/rumours and current Brisbane and NSW assistant.

Can’t ask for much more at this stage.

Nobody has said that players don't want to join us. It's speculation on why we are signing/rumoured to be signing the players we are and pondering what that means rather than outright calling the club out and saying the signings aren't good enough as some are prone to do. It's offering a potential reasoning to the approach they are taking and why they might be taking it instead of making demands on them to do better/different all the time. We're never going to be privy to the full in's and out's of what the club does or is tries to do but I do feel that patience and an understanding approach is needed more than anything else right now instead of the constant barrage of criticism the club faces over it's every move.

In recent times Myler has been trying to recruit players without us even having a coach confirmed for 2025. Made it harder to attract players when they don't know who they will even be playing for.
Now Cartwright has officially been appointed, and seems a very well respected coach, signing better players going forward may prove to be slightly easier. We still have to be realistic about the level we're at and the calibre of player we can attract, but I think now we have somebody in place for 2025 that conversations with players and agents will be smoother.

We also have to take into account building a squad - if the money is there are 3 players @50k a season for 1 year a better option then 3 players @40k a season for 2 years better options ? On the face with older players it’s clear 1 year deals better but for get the most out of cap the 2nd could be better if you have the money to pay off older types (ala rovers have with a few of their players) we arnt going to know until the end of the season the full signings even if we have signed players now why would the club announce everything- i just feel we wouldn’t of got Cartwright if we said that’s your fill pal - turn them into world beaters but you can’t add your own players. It’s frustrating at the moment but let’s stick with it (the players signed for me are just a bit of meat on the bones for the squad and we must have a fair bit of cap along with a few quota spaces to play with,

I'm not sure we have that much cap space unless some contracted players leave. Currently, from this year's squad we have

Hoy
Brown x 2
Scott
gone/going

Houghton
Carlos
Likely going

Then we have players who we don't know what is happening

Mitch
Cator
Balmforth

Signed/reportedly signed

Asiata
Hardaker
Holmes
Borough
Satae

So unless we are offloading the likes of tindal, okunbor, Pele and Sao and maybe walker, it doesn't look like there is much in the pot to me

I forgot to add Abdul in.

Suppose it depends on what inflated salaries those leaving were on. Pearson said we were at cap for this season so you'd assume we're paying overs for those leaving

I’m assuming we arent actually at fully cap/ theres dispensations we can use t maximise cap.

Hoy- Moy replacing internally currently. Frees up quota and cap space for more important positions.

nu brown - Abdul in terms of cap space he will be considerably less and is a better half back. so frees up quota spot.

Jack Brown - Aydin, reckon brown has/had more potential but from what I’ve seen Adyin is more reliable, aggressive and will be cheaper on the cap next year IMO

Scott - Hardaker on more but less than scott wants/ wakey are paying. dreadful bloke better player

Houghton - TBC but Houghton has sadly had his day. Will be more on the cap. Will be a quota player.

Carlos - Asiata is probably his like for like. Will be on pitch more which says it all. 150k on cap, will likely be about the same as Carlos in all reality.

Other signings

Satae better player than most but work rate is poor. Will be a fair chunk on cap but as he wanted to come back, we might have got a reduced rate.

Holmes is in his twilight years. Won’t break that bank and adds a bit of squad depth. Better than we have and non quota

Borough won’t be on peanuts but also won’t be expensive. Gives us extra depth and hopefully we keep Balmforth giving us 4 hookers (inc M.Smith).

Then 1 quota spot free to assign without speculating on Ligi or Okunbor.

Overall Man for Man we’ll be better. If we ace our 2 last quota spots it suddenly turns us into a side battling for the 6 next year

Carlos will be on a huge wedge, as well Sao. Hoy and N Brown too. Briscoe cheaper than Darnell. Houghton won’t be cheap.

I’m confident we’ll have a good amount to spend.

Cator wont be at Hull Next season , He's already negotiating with another club is what I've Heard .

Salford I’ve heard

New deals for Harvey Barron, Zach Jebson and Matty Laidlaw.

Balmforth conspicuous by his absence there. I know there been plenty of talk about this but there must be some reason why three coaches have been reluctant to give him regular game time in Super League. Not been linked to a permanent move away from the club as far as I'm aware though?

I think we're well covered for Cator if/when he leaves. Asiata will be 1st choice 13 and we still have Fash, Aydin plus Armstrong.

Unless he's our first choice 9 for next year